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<blockquote data-quote="Tony Vargas" data-source="post: 7848001" data-attributes="member: 996">Not s'much in 5e where they use magic prettymuch from the get-go.&nbsp; In 3e you could finagle a build using up to 3 levels of ranger to pick up skills &amp; bonus feats without any hippy magic. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink&nbsp; &nbsp; ;)"&nbsp; data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />&nbsp; In 4e the ranger should have been a natural for a thrower build, but it's 'V' design did not work out well, you generally had to go all-melee or all-archery - until Martial Power 2, so you did wait over a year for the STR based alternative, not that axe-thrower is quite as prevalent out there as knife-thrower.I believe what you're saying is that the knife-fighter, stabbing &amp; throwing lots of daggers around, wasn't always well-supported in D&amp;D, which is true, to an extent - it didn't start working in AD&amp;D until weapon specialization came into, and it didn't start working in 5e until just now.&nbsp; But, in-between, 2e, 3e, &amp; 4e, it worked quite well out of the box, in 3e, admittedly, with a fair bit of optimization to concept.It is a common/familiar archetype, however, like I said, far, far more so than Vancian magic or mace-obligated clerics or many another quixotic D&amp;Dism that 5e couldn't have dared let slide for even a moment.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Tony Vargas, post: 7848001, member: 996"] Not s'much in 5e where they use magic prettymuch from the get-go. In 3e you could finagle a build using up to 3 levels of ranger to pick up skills & bonus feats without any hippy magic. ;) In 4e the ranger should have been a natural for a thrower build, but it's 'V' design did not work out well, you generally had to go all-melee or all-archery - until Martial Power 2, so you did wait over a year for the STR based alternative, not that axe-thrower is quite as prevalent out there as knife-thrower. I believe what you're saying is that the knife-fighter, stabbing & throwing lots of daggers around, wasn't always well-supported in D&D, which is true, to an extent - it didn't start working in AD&D until weapon specialization came into, and it didn't start working in 5e until just now. But, in-between, 2e, 3e, & 4e, it worked quite well out of the box, in 3e, admittedly, with a fair bit of optimization to concept. It is a common/familiar archetype, however, like I said, far, far more so than Vancian magic or mace-obligated clerics or many another quixotic D&Dism that 5e couldn't have dared let slide for even a moment. [/QUOTE]

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