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<blockquote data-quote="Tony Vargas" data-source="post: 7849098" data-attributes="member: 996">Hey, something we can agree on. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink&nbsp; &nbsp; ;)"&nbsp; data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />&nbsp; The foundational 0e/1e take on the ranger got spellcasting around name level.&nbsp; But, it was still a case of &quot;this archetype (Aragorn) did something besides hit things with a stick, we'll have to simulate that with spellcasting.&quot;&nbsp; <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink&nbsp; &nbsp; ;)"&nbsp; data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />&nbsp;&nbsp; The focus on archery and TWFing was something that somehow got added too it, but it stuck pretty tenaciously and was foundational in 3e, which also made the Animal Companion &amp; casting into things at very low level.&nbsp; 4e stripping away all the Aragorn, Grizzly Adams, and half-Druid-casting stuff, and focusing on just the TWF &amp; Archery, with the nature-boy stuff limited to skills, was pretty radical.&nbsp; Of course, everything in 4e was pretty radical for a cult-classic IP as tradition-bound as D&amp;D.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Tony Vargas, post: 7849098, member: 996"] Hey, something we can agree on. ;) The foundational 0e/1e take on the ranger got spellcasting around name level. But, it was still a case of "this archetype (Aragorn) did something besides hit things with a stick, we'll have to simulate that with spellcasting." ;) The focus on archery and TWFing was something that somehow got added too it, but it stuck pretty tenaciously and was foundational in 3e, which also made the Animal Companion & casting into things at very low level. 4e stripping away all the Aragorn, Grizzly Adams, and half-Druid-casting stuff, and focusing on just the TWF & Archery, with the nature-boy stuff limited to skills, was pretty radical. Of course, everything in 4e was pretty radical for a cult-classic IP as tradition-bound as D&D. [/QUOTE]

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