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<blockquote data-quote="tetrasodium" data-source="post: 7859155" data-attributes="member: 93670">I strongly disagree with this because it has a lot of problems, in no particular order<ul>
<li data-xf-list-type="ul">the official 5e books pretty much lack any meaningful amount if rules beyond things like travel speeds for travel.&nbsp; Sure <a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/darkerdungeons5e/comments/d92d53/giffyglyphs_darker_dungeons_v22_rules_to_make/" target="_blank">there are fan made suppliments</a> that improve on that &amp; other things by giving actual interesting rules for travel, but you need to look at how the ranger actually handles it.&nbsp; </li>
<li data-xf-list-type="ul">In most cases a ranger is no better or worse than a druid or something with survival.</li>
<li data-xf-list-type="ul">If the Ranger's favored terrain &amp; such kicks in for that travel, the effect is that you just automatically succeed &amp; remove that part of the game.&nbsp; This is the fun equivalent of a fighter instantly killing any caster baddies &amp; a wizard instantly killing any martial baddies.</li>
<li data-xf-list-type="ul">When a ranger might shine in the case of food &amp; water during travel... the outlander background just automatically succeeds.&nbsp; Given that outlander gives athletics, survival, &amp; a language you hve even or better odds of one or more outlanders in the party.</li>
<li data-xf-list-type="ul">Even if you do have a lot of travel, and have interesting rules/mechanics for travel,&nbsp; and rework outlander, and rework the ranger travel related mechanics*... There are still settings with things like well marked roads &amp; maps. </li>
</ul>*all of those &amp; more are done in <a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/darkerdungeons5e/comments/d92d53/giffyglyphs_darker_dungeons_v22_rules_to_make/" target="_blank">this</a> &amp; it really makes a difference.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="tetrasodium, post: 7859155, member: 93670"] I strongly disagree with this because it has a lot of problems, in no particular order [LIST] [*]the official 5e books pretty much lack any meaningful amount if rules beyond things like travel speeds for travel. Sure [URL='https://www.reddit.com/r/darkerdungeons5e/comments/d92d53/giffyglyphs_darker_dungeons_v22_rules_to_make/']there are fan made suppliments[/URL] that improve on that & other things by giving actual interesting rules for travel, but you need to look at how the ranger actually handles it. [*]In most cases a ranger is no better or worse than a druid or something with survival. [*]If the Ranger's favored terrain & such kicks in for that travel, the effect is that you just automatically succeed & remove that part of the game. This is the fun equivalent of a fighter instantly killing any caster baddies & a wizard instantly killing any martial baddies. [*]When a ranger might shine in the case of food & water during travel... the outlander background just automatically succeeds. Given that outlander gives athletics, survival, & a language you hve even or better odds of one or more outlanders in the party. [*]Even if you [I]do [/I]have a lot of travel, [I]and[/I] have interesting rules/mechanics for travel, [I]and [/I]rework outlander, [I]and[/I] rework the ranger travel related mechanics*... There are still settings with things like well marked roads & maps. [/LIST] *all of those & more are done in [URL='https://www.reddit.com/r/darkerdungeons5e/comments/d92d53/giffyglyphs_darker_dungeons_v22_rules_to_make/']this[/URL] & it [I]really [/I]makes a difference. [/QUOTE]

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