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News Digest: Controversy Abounds! New Vampire Edition Details, Green Ronin's Talent Search, 7th Sea

Hello everyone! Darryl here with this week’s gaming news! And this week is all about controversy. Vampire: The Masquerade 5th Edition release information (with a controversial hiring), Green Ronin is looking for female writers for Lost Citadel, International Tabletop Day may not be able to meet demand for promotional items, and more! Even this week’s Kickstarters are loaded with controversy!

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Hello everyone! Darryl here with this week’s gaming news! And this week is all about controversy. Vampire: The Masquerade 5th Edition release information (with a controversial hiring), Green Ronin is looking for female writers for Lost Citadel, International Tabletop Day may not be able to meet demand for promotional items, and more! Even this week’s Kickstarters are loaded with controversy!

Okay, this is a very simple story with a very complicated background. I’m going to tell the story first this time and, if you’re not sure what’s going on, I’ll explain more in the next paragraph. White Wolf Publishing announced details about the new edition of Vampire: The Masquerade. This new fifth edition of the game will come out in early 2018 and, according to ICv2, “continue the metagame that was shaped in 2004”. This would be the sourcebook Gehenna which presented several options for the “end of the world” of the World of Darkness and the tie-in novel Gehenna: The Final Night be Ari Marmell. If these events will be rolled into the new edition in an “After the End” manner, it’s not yet known. This project began in controversy after White Wolf announced hiring Zak Smith (aka Zak Sabbath or Zak S) back in February, a man who has been accused of harassing behavior, to work on a video game. WW's response can be found here.

So some of you may be wondering where Onyx Path is in all this. They’re still around, but they’re not involved with this new edition of the game. They are, however, still creating new material for World of Darkness. But not for the new edition. Onyx Path still holds the license for the Chronicles of Darkness (which is the official name of what was called the New World of Darkness titles: Vampire: The Requiem, Werewolf: The Forsaken, etc.) and they hold the license for the 20th Anniversary editions of all the World of Darkness (the official name for Old World of Darkness titles: Vampire: The Masquerade, Werewolf: The Apocalypse, etc.). So Onyx Path is still publishing new material for both of these lines, but are NOT publishing material for the new 5th Edition of Vampire: The Masquerade.

So White Wolf was purchased by CCP Games (makers of the Eve Online franchise) who only wanted the IP rights to make a World of Darkness MMO. After many years of development, the title was finally canceled in 2014 and White Wolf plus all its assets were sold to Paradox Interactive in 2015. Late last year, Paradox Interactive spun White Wolf Publishing into its own (but fully owned) company in anticipation of publishing a new edition. At this time, the licensing deals were restructured and, when the dust settled, the licenses for Chronicles of Darkness and the 20th Anniversary versions of the original World of Darkness games were with Onyx Path and the live-action Mind’s Eye Theater remained with By Night Studios. So this is how White Wolf is coming out with a new edition at a time when Onyx Path is running a Kickstarter for a World of Darkness themed card game.


Green Ronin launched a talent search for contributors to The Lost Citadel roleplaying game, based on the fiction anthology and world developed by Jaym Gates, C.A. Suleiman, and Ari Marmell about a fantasy world in the middle of a zombie apocalypse. There is a catch, as they’re specifically accepting proposals from women. From the announcement:

In the lead-up to June’s Kickstarter for the LCRPG, we are going to be running a talent search for women who are interested in coming to work on the project. If you identify as female and dark fantasy is your jam, we want to see what you can bring to the table! Not to worry, fellas, we have some other opportunities for you coming up later in the year, as well, but this talent search is just for the ladies.

A statement was issued to further clarify that the talent search was also open to those who identify as non-binary gender. The announcement from Green Ronin General Manager Nicole Lindroos comes following a post from Green Ronin President Chris Pramas [EDIT: This post was from Green Ronin General Manager Nicole Lindroos, not Chris Pramas as original posted] speaking about his [EDIT: her] experience on a panel at the DICE Summit in Las Vegas, noting the gender discrepancy of those in the industry and those looking to break in, noting both how far the industry has come and how far it still has to go.


7th Sea promised a platform for user-created content during their wildly successful Kickstarter last year, and now they’ve delivered as Explorer’s Society is live. The online store allows users to create and sell content for the 7th Sea 2nd Edition game, including adventures, NPCs, homebrew rules, or more. There is a content guideline that acts as a license for use of the Intellectual Property, laying out exactly what you can and cannot use from published materials and in what way you’re allowed to use them (this is similar to the license for the DM’s Guild). In the week since launch, there’s already two dozen products available for purchase ranging in cost from free to Pay-What-You-Want to a set price of $3.99 for some of the adventures.


International Tabletop Day has run into a minor issue: The event is so big that they can’t keep up with demand! This is the first year that all promotional items have been released a la carte rather than as a single one-size-fits-all pack. Personally, I preferred the old way, but that’s because I live in a rural area so my local event always had more promotional items than attendees. However, retailers in more populated areas could customize their orders in order to make sure they could meet demand based on previous events. And this year, the demand was higher than ever – so much so that not everyone will be getting their products. Quoted in ICv2, Producer Ivan Van Norman said “We opened up the print sizes significantly as well with publishers, but didn’t know what to expect with the new system. After collecting all the pre-orders we can tell you that you meet and beat the expectations out of the park. Despite opening up numbers significantly, we are at 85-95% fill rate to pre-orders for almost all items for International Tabletop Day.” The only odd one out was the promotional card from Cryptozoic’s Master of Orion, which only had enough product to fill 16% of the orders and cannot be reprinted in time for the event. International Tabletop Day is on Saturday, April 29 and the official website has a locator to find the event closest to you.


Even the Kickstarters this week haven’t managed to evade controversy this week! Alternity is now on Kickstarter bringing a world of science fiction adventure. Technically speaking, however, this is not a new edition of the original Alternity game. Instead, this game takes the abandoned trademarks from the original Alternity and creates an entire new rules system inspired by the original. Some on social media criticized Sasquatch games for using the abandoned trademarks rather than creating an original property. My response: Yeah, how dare this Richard Baker and Bill Slavicsek rip off the hard work of the original Alternity creators, Richard Baker and Bill Slavicsek! And can you believe they’re letting George RR Martin write the next Song of Ice and Fire novel? But more seriously, this new game captures everything from the original Alternity with the original creators involved as they update and streamline the game system bringing in the knowledge of twenty years of advancement in the industry since the original. You can get the core rulebook in PDF for $25, a print version for $40, or a bundle of all content including stretch goals in PDF for $45 or adding on a print copy of the core rulebook for $65. This project is about halfway to its funding goal, but has until Thursday, May 4 to reach its $35,000 goal.

Now for some controversial nepotism! EN Publishing, the game design and publishing arm of EN World, is creating a book of brand new classes for the 5th Edition of “the world’s most popular roleplaying game”. Alchemist, Cardcaster, Diabolist, Feywalker, Morph, Noble, and Occultist are each detailed with multiple subclass builds (see the links for previews). In addition, the book includes new subclasses and build options for the core classes and much more. You can get the PDF version immediately at the end of the Kickstarter for a £10 (about US$13) pledge, or a print copy for £17 (about US$21) for a print copy as soon as it’s printed. This Kickstarter is fully funded and runs until Friday, May 5.

Underworld Races & Classes gives you even more options for your 5th Edition or Pathfinder games from Adventure a Week Games. What’s the controversy with promoting this one? While I’m not directly involved with this project, I am currently working with AAW Games on another project they haven’t announced yet. That said, this book is a collection of new races, classes, spells, and items all themed around the things that dwell beneath the surface of the world, thriving in the darkness. The PDF is available for $25 for your choice of edition or $45 for both with hardcover versions available for $55 or $105 for both. This Kickstarter is fully funded and runs until Friday, April 28.

That’s all from me for this week! Find more gaming news at the EN World News Network website, and don’t forget to support our Patreon to bring you even more gaming news content. If you have any news to submit, email us at news@enworldnews.com. You can follow me on Twitter @Abstruse where I’ve been ranting about the Pepsi controversy (there’s no reason not to bring back Crystal Pepsi permanently!), or you can listen to the archives of the Gamer’s Tavern podcast. Until next time, may all your hits be crits! Note: Links to Amazon and/or DriveThru may contain affiliate links with the proceeds going to the author of this column.
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epithet

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You have a gross misunderstanding of what trangender means.

That might or might not be the case, but in any event the contest is open to people who "identify" as "non-binary gender." Now, I have to admit that I don't know what the hell that is, but it certainly suggests to me that I could participate as long as I identify myself as anything other than male--in other words, as long as I disavow or renounce my masculinity.
 
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Morrus

Well, that was fun
Staff member
Yes, yes, yes.
If not for the lawyers, lawsuits, $$$, (& everybody thinking their some kind of special & needing their own acronym), it wouldn't be that complicated.
It's simple: there's males, there's females, & there's people with assorted mental illness and/or biological problems concerning their sexuality. But for reasons we refuse to treat those particular mental illnesses & bio-problems for what they are....

Utterly, utterly inappropriate. Let me be clear: this website is welcoming to all and is supportive of diversity. Calling transgender people mental ill *is* hate speech. Please do not post in this thread again.
 

Morrus

Well, that was fun
Staff member
I never claimed to own anyone, this isn't the antebellum south, an no one owns anyone anymore so you can take off your uniform and put down your musket and go home, the North won. Since Abraham Lincoln is one of my favorite historical figures that probably makes me as happy as I am sure it does you.

I think you may be confusing me for an American.

I will not pay people to proselytize me, that's my statement, and that's my point.

You are not paying people to proselytise you. You are paying people for a book, and then acting like that entitles you to their silence.

Green Ronin has decided to pander to liberal sensibilities in order to make a sale.

Don't be ridiculous. If you knew *anything* about Green Ronin, you would know damn well that these are their firm beliefs and they stand by them. They are not pandering to anybody to make a sale. The very thought of Chris Pramas and Nicole Lindroos pandering to somebody to make a sale is utterly absurd.


If Green Ronin suddenly decided to market a product written by pro trump conservative haters of planned parent hood its the exact same thing. Here's my anecdotal proof that Politics, religion and RPG should not mix: this conversation. Your article made a statement that they have decided to throw their hats into the political arena rather then just sell geek products to geek people. I don't care what side of the aisle their on, that's their business and that's their right, please don't tell me that I'm a bad person because I don't want buy products which have obviously been politicized. If your trying to convince me that I should buy political rhetoric your off to an armature start at best. You're only attempting to brow beat me into compliance, if you want me to buy proselytizing products you're going to have to learn to proselytize. Actually, you need to put a finer edge on your technique and learn to both brow beat and proselytizing at the same time. If you have no experience with this I can recommend several books that, though I have never read them myself, come highly recommended. First off you should try Snake Oil Salesmanship and Partisan Proselytizing by Rush Limbaugh. Rush is one of those oily personalities that successfully manages to both proselytize and swindle his audience while simultaneously convincing them that he's a great guy, and he does it all while stoned out of his mind on oxycodone. I may not like the man, but damn he's good. Now Rush might not be your speed, perhaps you don't like his subtly or his conservative views, that's ok, I've got another one you'll just love. It's call Tax Cheating and Brow Beating, How to Swindle A Fortune In Modern Day America by Reverend Al Sharpton. No one can take on the heir of righteous indignation, brow beat his detractors and proselytize all his followers simultaneously the way Reverend Al can. Now if threats of imposing hate speech censor ship is your thing, then Reverend Al's instructional guide is the book for you. Plus Sharpton's book had a huge bonus: it will tell you how to cheat the IRS out of millions, and unlike Trump University its proven to work, after all Reverend Al isn't in jail despite all the millions of back taxes he owes. What finer a testimonial to his larcenous skill can you ask for? Now if my trashing of both political parties has thoughtfully annoyed you then maybe you understand my point about politics and RPG being a bad mix. I'm sure you know that the old adage that states never talk about politics or religion in polite company, and what table with a role playing game on it is any fun if the company isn't polite?

I can't parse that wall of text, but I can see multiple references to US politics there. As you know, politics and religion are not permitted here. Sometimes there is a little leeway allowed so that a subject such as this can be discussed calmly, but full blown political rants are completely against the rules. Please leave the US political references out of the discussion. I suspect that if I could parse it, I'd see a range of insults buried in there, so let's be glad I can't.
 

Hussar

Legend
Quote Originally Posted by epithet View Post
As amended, the contest is now open to men as long as they have disavowed their masculinity.


Read more: http://www.enworld.org/forum/showth...-l-Tabletop-Day-and-more!/page8#ixzz4dYppki8O

"Disavowed their masculinity"?

Seriously? That's your takeaway of transgender issues? It's okay to have a "women writers" contest, but, someone who identifies as a woman is barred because... they've "disavowed their masculinity"? It's okay to have a "women writers" contest, but, only so long as those women are straight?

Wow.

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Y'know what folks? This thread went far, far too far off the ranch for EN World's code of conduct. I've gotta admit, reading this sort of thing just makes me rather sad for a hobby that has spent so much time catering to sidelined geeks and nerds who used to get treated like crap and often bullied.

D&D and RPG's in general have always been a safe haven hobby for people who are interested in things that mainstream pop culture deemed childish and ridiculous. Somewhere I can go and talk about being a pretend elf and then actually get together with people and pretend to be an elf. And no one in the hobby judges me.

Funny how that doesn't seem to apply to anyone else. Naw, scratch that. That's not funny. It's just incredibly sad and depressing.
 

Maggan

Writer for CY_BORG, Forbidden Lands and Dragonbane
Reading this thread has made me decide to buy the Green Ronin game when it is released.

That is all.

/M
 

araquael

Explorer
I really hope the GR game does well. It looks really interesting.

Also, here's a thing - writing a game book is freelance writing. It's not covered by any particular labour laws. It's a work-for-hire, and its a contract based agreement. Such writing pays, for example, significantly less than minimum wage, unless you're really fast and efficient at writing. Similar dynamics exist in the film industry - where you have people working 18 hour days on shoots, (for example to get stuff done while the weather is good), which would violate a whole bunch of labour laws if things were structured normally. But they're not.

Nature of the beast.
White Wolf in the past, for example, has put out submission calls for people with particular backgrounds, to better work on a particular product. The world didn't end. The writing community was dude heavy then, dude heavy now. It's not the end of the world, but being able to broaden the community is really useful.

Also, this is for one product. Not a line. Not the entire year's output. But a product. It will likely get some new talent in the door or burnish some other talent's reputation. The manosphere can sleep soundly.
 

Lord_Blacksteel

Adventurer
And, let's be completely honest here. Heterosexual White Male is hardly a disadvantage when you do enter open contests. The same may very well not be true otherwise.

I'm a little curious - if someone submits a story to a contest on the internet how does one automatically know the race, nationality, or gender of the author? Are they making writers fill out a form that asks these things? The name might give some idea as to gender but it doesn't necessarily help much on the rest.
 

epithet

Explorer
"Disavowed their masculinity"?

Seriously? That's your takeaway of transgender issues? It's okay to have a "women writers" contest, but, someone who identifies as a woman is barred because... they've "disavowed their masculinity"? It's okay to have a "women writers" contest, but, only so long as those women are straight?

I thought I had made it clear that I had no issue with the original "identifies as female" wording. My issue was the inclusion of "non-binary" turned the thing from "women" to "not men," from pro-female to anti-male. You might not agree with my assessment (clearly you don't) but please don't misrepresent this as "my takeaway of transgender issues."
 

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