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<blockquote data-quote="Snarf Zagyg" data-source="post: 8860453" data-attributes="member: 7023840">How do we know what direction Gunn has taken?As I wrote in <a href="https://www.enworld.org/threads/hbomax-explained-and-streaming-service-2022-year-end-review.693821/" target="_blank">this thread</a>...&quot;In other words, it is a company with a crippling debt burden looking for a way out. Maybe that will be a sale, or maybe that will be a continued pivot to a lesser version of what it once was. But when looking at any decision made by HBOMax (or the parent studio), don't think of it in terms of creative decision-making, or the fans, or even the future of the company ... just remember ... 53 billion in debt needs to be serviced.&quot;While we don't know the full scope of the plans, yet, we can see the following is the likely path:1. Anything related to the Snyderverse? Gone. 2. Anything related to the Rock's attempt to insert himself? Gone.3. Anything previously planned, but not yet filmed? Gone (but see 4).4. Matt Reeve's Batman Detective and Todd Phillips Joker? Still good.Pretty simple. People want to make this about artistic choices. In the future? Maybe. But it's not. It's about cash.General rule of Hollywood is that it always costs more for the return than the start. The reason that Marvel wants to replace its actors with new actors isn't because that's what is creatively demanded- it's because it gets really expensive once the initial option contracts run out. If Black Adam had made a ton of money, it might be different. It didn't.Reeves and Phillips will survive because they are still reasonably low cost, and both made money.Everything else? Getting reset to lower costs. Because the star of the franchise isn't Cavill- it's Superman.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Snarf Zagyg, post: 8860453, member: 7023840"] How do we know what direction Gunn has taken? As I wrote in [URL='https://www.enworld.org/threads/hbomax-explained-and-streaming-service-2022-year-end-review.693821/']this thread[/URL]... "In other words, it is a company with a crippling debt burden looking for a way out. Maybe that will be a sale, or maybe that will be a continued pivot to a lesser version of what it once was. But when looking at any decision made by HBOMax (or the parent studio), don't think of it in terms of creative decision-making, or the fans, or even the future of the company ... just remember ... [I]53 billion in debt needs to be serviced."[/I] While we don't know the full scope of the plans, yet, we can see the following is the likely path: 1. Anything related to the Snyderverse? Gone. 2. Anything related to the Rock's attempt to insert himself? Gone. 3. Anything previously planned, but not yet filmed? Gone (but see 4). 4. Matt Reeve's Batman Detective and Todd Phillips Joker? Still good. Pretty simple. People want to make this about artistic choices. In the future? Maybe. But it's not. It's about cash. General rule of Hollywood is that it always costs more for the return than the start. The reason that Marvel wants to replace its actors with new actors isn't because that's what is creatively demanded- it's because it gets really expensive once the initial option contracts run out. If Black Adam had made a ton of money, it might be different. [I]It didn't[/I]. Reeves and Phillips will survive because they are still reasonably low cost, and both made money. Everything else? Getting reset to lower costs. Because the star of the franchise isn't Cavill- it's Superman. [/QUOTE]

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