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Next session a character might die. Am I being a jerk?
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<blockquote data-quote="Todd Roybark" data-source="post: 7960859" data-attributes="member: 6920677"><p>This tickles me. Not only can the characters use lethal violence, proactively, if you kill what the DM determines to be an undesirable, in an approved way, you get a cookie.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Yes, this is not in dispute. I am not sure what others are misreading in my words. I stated a character can use Vampiric Touch against an <em>evil</em> thing and still be Chaotic Good/ Neutral Good.</p><p></p><p>What is not clear, by the inclusion of the word, “Evil”?</p><p></p><p>I don’t think the act as described, in the original post, is justifiable as good at all.</p><p></p><p>If I had a situation as, described in the original post, I would handle just like the person that wrote the following:</p><p></p><p></p><p>I think what is clear from the content of the post of Tonguez, is that a large cohort of D&D players are fine with Charles Bronson, <em>extreme frontier</em> justice.</p><p></p><p>What if the three acolytes were priests of Bane, or Demogorgon? Is murdering three unconscious priest of an unabashedly, unquestionably evil force in the multiverse, held to the same conclusion of moral condemnation?</p><p></p><p>What if the Paladin detected them as unconscious evil outsiders? Does the same moral condemnation apply?</p><p></p><p>The answer, likely, is, in <em>some</em> campaigns: No.</p><p></p><p>The game has a long history of operating in the moral space where it is considered righteous, or at least normal, for the forces of good, to kill , with nigh impunity, evil things.</p><p></p><p>Most of this board is steeped in D&D lore, we know an acolyte of Demogogon is different from an acolyte of Lathander.</p><p></p><p>If you had no understanding of this context, and observed that some things in the game are Kill on Sight, it is conceivable, that parsing the difference between what is KOS and what is not, might be difficult.</p><p></p><p>Clearly, the Necromancer had no idea what Chaotic Good meant. Presuming, no deception or malice on the part of the player, they needed to be taught.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Todd Roybark, post: 7960859, member: 6920677"] This tickles me. Not only can the characters use lethal violence, proactively, if you kill what the DM determines to be an undesirable, in an approved way, you get a cookie. Yes, this is not in dispute. I am not sure what others are misreading in my words. I stated a character can use Vampiric Touch against an [I]evil[/I] thing and still be Chaotic Good/ Neutral Good. What is not clear, by the inclusion of the word, “Evil”? I don’t think the act as described, in the original post, is justifiable as good at all. If I had a situation as, described in the original post, I would handle just like the person that wrote the following: I think what is clear from the content of the post of Tonguez, is that a large cohort of D&D players are fine with Charles Bronson, [I]extreme frontier[/I] justice. What if the three acolytes were priests of Bane, or Demogorgon? Is murdering three unconscious priest of an unabashedly, unquestionably evil force in the multiverse, held to the same conclusion of moral condemnation? What if the Paladin detected them as unconscious evil outsiders? Does the same moral condemnation apply? The answer, likely, is, in [I]some[/I] campaigns: No. The game has a long history of operating in the moral space where it is considered righteous, or at least normal, for the forces of good, to kill , with nigh impunity, evil things. Most of this board is steeped in D&D lore, we know an acolyte of Demogogon is different from an acolyte of Lathander. If you had no understanding of this context, and observed that some things in the game are Kill on Sight, it is conceivable, that parsing the difference between what is KOS and what is not, might be difficult. Clearly, the Necromancer had no idea what Chaotic Good meant. Presuming, no deception or malice on the part of the player, they needed to be taught. [/QUOTE]
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