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<blockquote data-quote="TaranTheWanderer" data-source="post: 7963121" data-attributes="member: 15882">Right.&nbsp; You are asserting that, using modern day, 2020 ethics, where evil beings don't exist, most of those actions would be considered murder.&nbsp; Unfortunately, for your argument, in a fantasy game, wholly evil beings do exist and their existence is designed, often by an evil god, to be a (literal) plague on humanity (and other races) as a whole. You can't, therefore, look at it through the same moral lens.One can choose to not have innately evil races.&nbsp;&nbsp; A DM can make an Orc's 'evil' and violent behavior a cultural phenomena instead of an inherent part of their fabric.The latter (inherently evil version) dictates that an Orc cannot be redeemed.&nbsp; I wouldn't allow a player to use the Orc PC-exception from Volo's in that kind of campaign unless:1. It is an evil campaign and all players are playing evil characters2. The 'good' Orc PC is a very, very rare exception and is constantly struggling against its evil impulses.&nbsp; It would even be considered good RP if the PC occasionally lapsed into evil actions for lack of self-restraint.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="TaranTheWanderer, post: 7963121, member: 15882"] Right. You are asserting that, using modern day, 2020 ethics, where evil beings don't exist, most of those actions would be considered murder. Unfortunately, for your argument, in a fantasy game, wholly evil beings do exist and their existence is designed, often by an evil god, to be a (literal) plague on humanity (and other races) as a whole. You can't, therefore, look at it through the same moral lens. One can choose to not have innately evil races. A DM can make an Orc's 'evil' and violent behavior a cultural phenomena instead of an inherent part of their fabric. The latter (inherently evil version) dictates that an Orc cannot be redeemed. I wouldn't allow a player to use the Orc PC-exception from Volo's in that kind of campaign unless: 1. It is an evil campaign and all players are playing evil characters 2. The 'good' Orc PC is a very, very rare exception and is constantly struggling against its evil impulses. It would even be considered good RP if the PC occasionally lapsed into evil actions for lack of self-restraint. [/QUOTE]

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