NFL 2003-04 discussion thread

[Seonaid]

As an Eagles fan, I object to your statements . . . but as a rational person, I wholeheartedly agree. McNabb does not deserve it, not this year. Unfortunately, as was said in an interview of someone somewhere (can't recall, though I'm almost positive it was an Eagles player quoted in a local newspaper), the "name" players get picked. By the fans, by the coaches, and by the players. McNabb, while not the best out there, is doing fairly well recently, and did well in years past (and has the valid Pro Bowl picks to prove it), and has name recognition. Ah well. Such is life. Definitely not fair.

 

[Krug]

Well he put in a very impressive performance today. But it's true, the name players get picked. I would have liked to see Dat Nguyen go to the ProBowl instead of Urlacher.

 

[Brother Shatterstone]

Well, Seattle pulled out the much needed road win tonight. Now I just gotta pray for a loss by Green Bay, Minnesota or Dallas.

Well that was one more prayer than I thought you guys would get answered.

Well he put in a very impressive performance today. But it's true, the name players get picked. I would have liked to see Dat Nguyen go to the ProBowl instead of Urlacher.

That might be true but I would rather have Urlacher on my team over Nguyen... Urlacher just needs a few people around him on that defense...

 

[Krug]

That might be true but I would rather have Urlacher on my team over Nguyen... Urlacher just needs a few people around him on that defense...

Probably, but Nguyen performed better this season and is part of the reason for the success of Dallas' D.

 

[Seonaid]

Yeah, he's a good player. Plus it would be nice to see The Asian Guy in the Pro Bowl (says an Asian).

 

[Mystery Man]

go Redskins!!!!!!

Get 'em a coach!!

 

[Brother Shatterstone]

Touchdown Priest Holmes!!!

And with that he breaks the single season rushing TD mark...


Read all about it!

 

[Brother Shatterstone]

Probably, but Nguyen performed better this season and is part of the reason for the success of Dallas' D.

It's a team effort, with the junk around Urlacher it's easy to double if not triple team him... How many Bears defensive players can you name with out looking? I can add Mike Brown to the list but besides that I'm drawling a blank...


Now for Dallas's defensive I can name Roy Williams, Woodson, Coakley, Newman, and Edwards... Pretty sure most of them are starters and with Nguyen I've names over HALF the starting D and I can only name 18 % of the defense for the bears.


Edited: to fix spelling of the players name.

Also after looking at their starters I need to add La'Roi Glover as he is one of the best.

 

[Seonaid]

Ah, but that's the problem. If you're quiet and do your job well consistently, but are not showy, you never get to the Pro Bowl. Guys who screw up half the time but are spectacular when they do something good are the ones who go. Such is life.

 

[Brother Shatterstone]

Ah, but that's the problem. If you're quiet and do your job well consistently, but are not showy, you never get to the Pro Bowl.

Thats not really true as Trent Green is going to the Pro Bowl but I would hardly call him flashy...

Guys who screw up half the time but are spectacular when they do something good are the ones who go. Such is life.

Sorry, I just don't see that with Urlacher... Can you enlighten me?

Also in all honesty I don't see to many offensive coordinators saying "We need to game plan around Nguyen". Yet they do and often comments that "We need to game plan around Urlacher."

Here are the stats:
Dat Nguyen
Brian Urlacher

Some other stats to consider:
Scott Fujita
His stats show that stats are so over rated especially on defensives, as someone has to make a tackle... It's just a fact of life as Fujita isn't a Pro Bowler by anyone's standards but he managed to have more sacks than Urlacher and Nguyen had together, his total tackles are about the same.

Nguyen did have more turnovers than Urlacher but all in all Urlacher is the guy your build a defense around and Nguyen is just a nice addition.