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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Li Shenron" data-source="post: 1856409" data-attributes="member: 1465">ASF is one of those sacred cows that D&D never changes and many people horrify to see someone get easy on them <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f61b.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":p" title="Stick out tongue    :p"  data-smilie="7"data-shortname=":p" /> But in most of gaming circumstances, a wizard with armor would not be broken at all. In fact, unarmored wizards gets several other chances of higher AC. However, with the current ruleset it would be a pretty good benefit, because the armor bonus available to arcane casters from spells or magic items is definitely less than the one available from mundane armors, therefore I think dropping ASF completely isn't the best thing to do.If you allow at best to suffer no ASF only if you are proficient with armors, it's already quite balanced IMO. It's still good, because with multiclassing you can easily get ALL armor & shield proficiencies at once; you still give up 1 level of wiz/sor which isn't good, but the benefit may still be much better.Maybe having 3 further feats which negates ASF with the armor of a specified type: Light, Medium and Heavy? A single-class wiz/sor would have to pay 2 feats to cast in Light armor with no ASF, 4 feats to cast in Medium armor, and 6 feats in Heavy armor, which definitely isn't a cheap price. The multiclassed eldritch-knight type still has to pay some feat costs.</blockquote>

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