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<blockquote data-quote="SkredlitheOgre" data-source="post: 5739521" data-attributes="member: 99513">I agree with this.&nbsp; In the four groups I've played in since 3.0 (including PF), we've just rolled either 3d6 or &quot;4d6 drop lowest&quot; in order.&nbsp; I can see the 'switching a pair of scores' working well, though.&nbsp; I'll keep that in mind for the next characters we roll up.Anyway, back on the topic, I personally can't see any benefit from taking away the ability scores.&nbsp; Yes, you'd have a wider array of skills to choose from, but to me, that makes it seem more complicated than basing everything off of ability scores.&nbsp; Maybe I'm just entrenched in the ability scores and their modifiers.&nbsp; I wouldn't be against playing a system like this, but I probably wouldn't call it D&amp;D or Pathfinder.Somebody up thread mentioned something like 'Classes would determine who is stronger or stealthier' (Sorry if I misquoted and that I can't remember who said it), but I don't really like this idea.&nbsp; The idea that a half-orc Rogue would immediately be stealthier than a Gnome Fighter doesn't really jive with me.&nbsp; I understand that a Rogue would be trained to be stealthier than a Cleric, but it wouldn't always be the case, I wouldn't think.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="SkredlitheOgre, post: 5739521, member: 99513"] I agree with this. In the four groups I've played in since 3.0 (including PF), we've just rolled either 3d6 or "4d6 drop lowest" in order. I can see the 'switching a pair of scores' working well, though. I'll keep that in mind for the next characters we roll up. Anyway, back on the topic, I personally can't see any benefit from taking away the ability scores. Yes, you'd have a wider array of skills to choose from, but to me, that makes it seem more complicated than basing everything off of ability scores. Maybe I'm just entrenched in the ability scores and their modifiers. I wouldn't be [I]against[/I] playing a system like this, but I probably wouldn't call it D&D or Pathfinder. Somebody up thread mentioned something like 'Classes would determine who is stronger or stealthier' (Sorry if I misquoted and that I can't remember who said it), but I don't really like this idea. The idea that a half-orc Rogue would immediately be stealthier than a Gnome Fighter doesn't really jive with me. I understand that a Rogue would be trained to be stealthier than a Cleric, but it wouldn't [I]always[/I] be the case, I wouldn't think. [/QUOTE]

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