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<blockquote data-quote="Stormonu" data-source="post: 9282560" data-attributes="member: 52734">Those are the reasons I'd like racial abilities to extend into the levels.&nbsp; Your lizardfolk gets a chameleon-like invisibility or camouflage?&nbsp; Sure, pick that ability up at 3rd level.&nbsp;&nbsp; Thunderous stomp?&nbsp; Maybe that's something you can grab at 5th.If there's a bit of a palette for choices, you don't need a half-dozen elf types.&nbsp; You just need elf, then a list of abilities you can nab.&nbsp; You don't have to be a Kamille lizardfolk for invisibility or from the Dinoborn Clan to get stomp (or get the ability denied because it's too powerful for 1st level), you're just a lizardfolk who took those two abilities and the player can come up with the story how that combination came to be.I think this how PF handles it, and though it makes character creation a bit longer, if a player can handle picking spells they can handle picking traits.&nbsp; And if they don't want to, there can be (and probably should be) a suggested list.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Stormonu, post: 9282560, member: 52734"] Those are the reasons I'd like racial abilities to extend into the levels. Your lizardfolk gets a chameleon-like invisibility or camouflage? Sure, pick that ability up at 3rd level. Thunderous stomp? Maybe that's something you can grab at 5th. If there's a bit of a palette for choices, you don't need a half-dozen elf types. You just need elf, then a list of abilities you can nab. You don't have to be a Kamille lizardfolk for invisibility or from the Dinoborn Clan to get stomp (or get the ability denied because it's too powerful for 1st level), you're just a lizardfolk who took those two abilities and the [I]player[/I] can come up with the story how that combination came to be. I think this how PF handles it, and though it makes character creation a bit longer, if a player can handle picking spells they can handle picking traits. And if they don't want to, there can be (and probably should be) a suggested list. [/QUOTE]

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