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<blockquote data-quote="UngeheuerLich" data-source="post: 9289954" data-attributes="member: 59057"><p>You are a bit overexaggerating. A 15+ in charisma is not that uncommon. When rolling 3d6 to to bottom, it is a chance of 20/216 =9.25% (<a href="http://Link" target="_blank">https://www.thedarkfortress.co.uk/tech_reports/3_dice_rolls.php</a>) </p><p></p><p>Since you need another 12 for a druid, it is about a 3.5 % chance to qualify. And for a bard with another 13 it is slightly under 1%.</p><p></p><p>So looking at a village with slightly above 200 people we look at 7 possible druids and about 2 possible bards. </p><p></p><p>There is an intersection but since the 12s and 13s are on different stats, the intersecion is very small. Half of those characters have below average constitution, but in AD&D 2e you could live well with being slightly below average and you have an 90% chance to not have a negative hitpoint moddifier. </p><p></p><p>So lets say, we are looking at 1 bard in a 200 people village and 4 druids. </p><p></p><p>This seems like enough to encounter them frequently enough but nit oversaturatw a village with musicians. And it is certainly enough to form a small druid enclave that welcomes druids from a region with 10 such villages. Especially if you consider that druids have access to food, healing and later even agelessness, so that this enclave will grow over time while the villages might stagnate. </p><p></p><p>A paladin however is very rare, because they start with 1.75 chance of having charisma 17+ instead of 15+ and need another 9+, which results in a 0.13% chance to qualify at all and then the stats still suck for someone trying to be in the frontlines. No dex or con or str bonus. But at least no penalties for str and con. Chances are good that they are dumb and clumsy. And everyone that qualifies for a paladin also does for a druid. So I guess we need to look at a population of 2000+ to actually have a single paladin that can represent their class well. </p><p></p><p>On a side note, the bard is in competition with a few wizard subclasses (enchanter and illusionist I guess), so maybe we have to go to 300 to 400 people in the village if they have a wizard that trains apprentices.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="UngeheuerLich, post: 9289954, member: 59057"] You are a bit overexaggerating. A 15+ in charisma is not that uncommon. When rolling 3d6 to to bottom, it is a chance of 20/216 =9.25% ([URL='http://Link']https://www.thedarkfortress.co.uk/tech_reports/3_dice_rolls.php[/URL]) Since you need another 12 for a druid, it is about a 3.5 % chance to qualify. And for a bard with another 13 it is slightly under 1%. So looking at a village with slightly above 200 people we look at 7 possible druids and about 2 possible bards. There is an intersection but since the 12s and 13s are on different stats, the intersecion is very small. Half of those characters have below average constitution, but in AD&D 2e you could live well with being slightly below average and you have an 90% chance to not have a negative hitpoint moddifier. So lets say, we are looking at 1 bard in a 200 people village and 4 druids. This seems like enough to encounter them frequently enough but nit oversaturatw a village with musicians. And it is certainly enough to form a small druid enclave that welcomes druids from a region with 10 such villages. Especially if you consider that druids have access to food, healing and later even agelessness, so that this enclave will grow over time while the villages might stagnate. A paladin however is very rare, because they start with 1.75 chance of having charisma 17+ instead of 15+ and need another 9+, which results in a 0.13% chance to qualify at all and then the stats still suck for someone trying to be in the frontlines. No dex or con or str bonus. But at least no penalties for str and con. Chances are good that they are dumb and clumsy. And everyone that qualifies for a paladin also does for a druid. So I guess we need to look at a population of 2000+ to actually have a single paladin that can represent their class well. On a side note, the bard is in competition with a few wizard subclasses (enchanter and illusionist I guess), so maybe we have to go to 300 to 400 people in the village if they have a wizard that trains apprentices. [/QUOTE]
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