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<blockquote data-quote="tetrasodium" data-source="post: 9305253" data-attributes="member: 93670">The post you quoted is right about why the 2e version felt so different but off by enough about why the 4e version&nbsp; went over &quot;like a fart in a church&quot;.&nbsp; The 4e darksun &amp; 5e ravenloft tries to make those settings using the rules for a game designed for PoL/FR.&nbsp; Yes those things added were important in various ways, but that was often secondary to the critical need for the core rules being used themselves to feel different in ways that fit the setting.&nbsp; A darksun/ravenloft &amp; mwybe eberron specific PHB could accomplish that by doing things like:<ul>
<li data-xf-list-type="ul">replacing the spells chapter with new ones</li>
<li data-xf-list-type="ul">replacing the equipment chapter with new stuff</li>
<li data-xf-list-type="ul">Changing rules for rest/recovery/chargen/etc with setting appropriate versions</li>
</ul>The 4e &amp; 5e versions of those settings missed the important part of changing core elements to fit the setting.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="tetrasodium, post: 9305253, member: 93670"] The post you quoted is right about why the 2e version felt so different but off by enough about why the 4e version went over "like a fart in a church". The 4e darksun & 5e ravenloft tries to make those settings using the rules for a game designed for PoL/FR. Yes those things added were important in various ways, but that was often secondary to the critical need for the core rules being used themselves to feel different in ways that fit the setting. A darksun/ravenloft & mwybe eberron specific PHB could accomplish that by doing things like: [LIST] [*]replacing the spells chapter with new ones [*]replacing the equipment chapter with new stuff [*]Changing rules for rest/recovery/chargen/etc with setting appropriate versions [/LIST] The 4e & 5e versions of those settings missed the important part of changing core elements to fit the setting. [/QUOTE]

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