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No Harry Potter RPG?

painandgreed said:
...a story about a dark haired British 12 year old boy with Glasses that is schooled in magic, has a pet owl, and fought a magical creature that nearly killed them.
They'd have to be very similar to qualify as plagiarism. The fantasy genre is such a well-worn shoe that it's impossible to create something which bears no resemblance to someone else's work.

I simply fail to see anything particularly novel about the Harry Potter series. I read the first two, but found nothing which hadn't been explored by other authors previously.

Clearly, Rowling has hit on a magic formula for young readers. In turn, parents who'd never buy a fantasy-fiction book for themselves got hooked too, and now Rowling's credited with singlehandedly making fantasy interesting!

Still, if it gets kids reading, it's all good. The next step is to get them RPing, hence my OP.

Justin Bacon said:
Justin Alexander Bacon
No relation to Sir Francis, then?
 

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Hairfoot said:
So, what's a good, simple RPG system which could cover Harry Potter?

Don't know how I missed this thread earlier.

I've been working on a Harry Potter-esque conversion using the True 20 system and a modified Redhurst as a setting. Taking a cue from Goblet of Fire, where the existance of other magic schools is revealed, I decided to set Redhurst in the Harry Potter universe, but I set "somewhere in Massachusettes". I figured that onboard the Mayflower were a few wizards and witches, graduates of Hogworts, who settled in the Massachusettes Bay Colony and founded the school sometime in the middle 1600's. That way I could capture the feel of the world of the books without having to worry about conflicting without some little detail regarding Hogworts.

Redhurst took less modifying than the magic of True 20, which still captures the feel I wanted, though I have had to create a few spells and restrict others. I created three backgrounds, Purebloods, Half-bloods and Muggle-born. I didn't bother with squibs; assuming that every PC would be able to cast magic. Still hammering out the details as I go, but initial playtesting has been positive.
 

painandgreed said:
There's also N.K. Stouffer who wrote books in the 80's using the word "muggle" and had a character called "Larry Potter". However, the meaning of the word and differences between the characters are pretty big. Stouffer is sueing.
Past tense, sued. Her suit was decided three years ago, Stouffer lost big time.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/2268024.stm

The courts ruled that Stouffer had engaged in a "pattern of intentional bad faith conduct", and she was fined $30,000 and ordered to pay Ms. Rowling's legal fees.
 

Hairfoot said:
I simply fail to see anything particularly novel about the Harry Potter series.
Yeah, well, if you can crack that mystery, maybe you can tell me what's so charming about a purple dinosaur named Barney.

Maybe I forgot what's it like to be a kid, but when I saw Kikaida in my adult's eye, I say to myself, "Wow. It must have been cool to me way back when, 'cause now it looks so corny and cheesy." I guess when you realize that Santa Claus, Tooth Fairy, and the Easter Bunny are not real, you leave your childhood naivete in the farthest back of your mind.
 

WizarDru said:
A quick glance at the reviews here an ENWorld show 1 3-star and 3 4-star reviews. Pretty good. One even specifically cites what a good job the designers did adapting the difficult "will and the way" magic system.
The trouble as I see it is this: In the books, channelers have a fairly high percentage of there strength from the start, and only grow in strength a little until they reach their maximum. Also, that maximum is highly variable, ranging from useless to worldshaking.

That's virually impossible to balance in a level based game where everybody else starts out wussy and grows in power continuously. About the only thing they could have done is implement channelers as 'powerfull races' with an LA, but while that would have made a slightly better model for the book, I don't think it would have made a better game.

And like I said, everything else is pretty much spot on.


glass.
 

Ranger REG said:
I guess when you realize that
Santa Claus, Tooth Fairy, and the Easter Bunny are not real,
you leave your childhood naivete in the farthest back of your mind.
Shouldn't you spoiler-tag that? This is supposed to be a kid-friendly site! ;) :p


glass.
 

They'd have to be very similar to qualify as plagiarism. The fantasy genre is such a well-worn shoe that it's impossible to create something which bears no resemblance to someone else's work.

I'm not calling Rowling a plaigarist...BUT if you look at the collection of Tim Hunter stories (the ones started by Neil Gaiman and continued by others), you'll read the story of how a smallish, skinny, bespecticled brown-haired British pre-adolescent with a magic owl grew up to become one of the greatest mages humanity has ever seen.

As my old theology professor once said- "There seems to be a great deal of literary dependance here..."

Adding fuel to the fire is how closely the actor and wardrobe for the Potter movies resemble Tim Hunter, especially about the face. (For proof, do a little searching on the web. Amazon typically has both Potter & Hunter books for sale.)

However, Gaiman's Hunter has no Hogwarts...his lessons are more the "school of hard knocks" type, with occasional pointers from older supernatural types. Its grittier.

I liken it more to what happened when Superman died. Not only did Marvel dust off its various Superman-inspired characters (Hyperion, Gladiator, Thor) for higher profile duty, but all of the smaller independents making superhero comics introduced their own takes on the Superman legend. Dark Horse had one, Titan, go insane and start killing people. Image's Supreme was arrogant, aloof and alien- humanity was beneath him. And so forth.

Tim Hunter and Harry Potter have many similarities, yes. But they're taking fairly different paths, and not even headed towards the same destination. Potter's going to a hero's Heaven...but Hunter keeps flirting with Hell.
 

Zander said:
Maybe SKR would like to say, but can´t, that if you look up plagiarist in the dictionary, it says "see J. K. Rowling" and it would therefore be hypocritical of her not to want someone else to define `her´ world in any way.

Zander rhymes with slander, so it's a pity that this is libel!

A completely unsubstantiated statement with no evidence to back it up.
 



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