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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Obryn" data-source="post: 5261193" data-attributes="member: 11821">(Reposted from rpg.net....)OK, on the one hand, I find the general idea pretty believable.  PHB1, DMG1, and MM1, if kept in print, could create some confusion among new players.  Also, frankly, the material from the first 3 books isn't up to par with releases from Arcane Power and on.  4e has evolved, and I've said for over a year that I think a 4.5 release would be rather welcome.On the other hand, it's an anonymous rumor on some website I don't think most of us had even heard of.  I give it zero weight - even if the rumor is true, I don't think it's a trustworthy source, and none of us have learned anything new by the publication of said rumor.  We know exactly as much as we did before, and not an iota more.I think that talking about "4.5" at this point is inane and ridiculous.  With that said, if the core* books are taken out of publication instead of being updated, and new core* books continue to cover the same classes and races as the books we already have, and this is now the means for everyone to get into 4e rather than one of two good options, it would fill most of my own criteria.  I mean, if you stop making the core* game books, and start making new core* game books, it feels like a partial edition jump to me, insofar as that's a remotely meaningful statement when you're talking about a modular game like 4e.  If we see later releases re-treading the Warlord, Bard, and so on, it's even moreso.  I think that publication status is as good a dividing line as anything, when you're talking about core* books, and it's probably a bit better than most.  Now,  please remember that the idea of a "4.5" doesn't bother me in the least.  It's something I've wanted for a while, but so far the Essentials hasn't fit the bill.-O* Core, here, meaning "The minimum books required to get sufficient information for a group to learn and play the game" rather than "generic and not tied to a specific setting."  For D&D this has been, in every edition to-date, the PHB, MM, and DMG.</blockquote>

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