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<blockquote data-quote="Dannyalcatraz" data-source="post: 3575548" data-attributes="member: 19675"><p>You mean that he led Galactus to all those populated planets without once ever being touched before?</p><p></p><p>That's a bit of a stretch.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Nope- the "Firelord Beatdown" occured in Amazing Spiderman 269 & 270...he was wearing a reproduction of the black symbiote costume, which had found Eddie Brock (Venom) in Amazing Spiderman #258 (although he didn't really come back as Venom until about issue #300 or so).</p><p></p><p>He "won" because his "Spidey sense" allowed him to avoid being hit...and somehow, a guy who had taken hits from the Thing couldn't take a few dozen from Spidey, who isn't even in <em>Firelord's </em>strength class, much less the Thing's.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Yep.</p><p></p><p>Coming to America had a budget of 38M and grossed 400M worldwide. It lost money (like I said, due to wonky accounting practices*) on the studio's books.</p><p></p><p>FF cost 100M to make and grossed 400M worldwide. That's a flop- I guarantee you it's net profits finished in the red (see below).</p><p></p><p>*Those practices include using subsidiaries for nearly everything in the production/marketing/distribution and counting that against the gross. The <em>movie</em> may lose money, but the <em>company </em>makes it hand over fist. That is why, if you ever get involved in a Hollywood production, you either get your money paid in full before it shows once, or get your money out of the <em>gross </em>profits- there will be no <em>net</em> profits.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Dannyalcatraz, post: 3575548, member: 19675"] You mean that he led Galactus to all those populated planets without once ever being touched before? That's a bit of a stretch. Nope- the "Firelord Beatdown" occured in Amazing Spiderman 269 & 270...he was wearing a reproduction of the black symbiote costume, which had found Eddie Brock (Venom) in Amazing Spiderman #258 (although he didn't really come back as Venom until about issue #300 or so). He "won" because his "Spidey sense" allowed him to avoid being hit...and somehow, a guy who had taken hits from the Thing couldn't take a few dozen from Spidey, who isn't even in [I]Firelord's [/I]strength class, much less the Thing's. Yep. Coming to America had a budget of 38M and grossed 400M worldwide. It lost money (like I said, due to wonky accounting practices*) on the studio's books. FF cost 100M to make and grossed 400M worldwide. That's a flop- I guarantee you it's net profits finished in the red (see below). *Those practices include using subsidiaries for nearly everything in the production/marketing/distribution and counting that against the gross. The [I]movie[/I] may lose money, but the [I]company [/I]makes it hand over fist. That is why, if you ever get involved in a Hollywood production, you either get your money paid in full before it shows once, or get your money out of the [I]gross [/I]profits- there will be no [I]net[/I] profits. [/QUOTE]
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