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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Li Shenron" data-source="post: 3366085" data-attributes="member: 1465">Agree completely. "Character concept" is very often just an excuse.One thing to consider it to convert certain prestige classes abilities into feats and feat chains (or something else, if you prefer).This way a player who wants the "concept" of horizon walker (but indeed we know he wants the features) will take them as feats without the need to take the prestige class.If you want to limit access to those features, you can just apply to the new feats the same RP restrictions you would apply to the prestige class.For example, someone wanting the abilities of the Order of the Bow Initiate will have to belong to the Order, even if there is no more a prestige class associated to it but only feats. Lots of published settings do similar things (Forgotten Realms has regional feats, Rokugan has clan-specific feats).That also gets rid of the stupid idea that the only way for someone belonging to a group to learn the group's "secrets" is to take an entire prestige class, which is not a small thing. Furthermore, "groups" often make sense to be made up of very different types of base characters (warriors, spellcasters, priests...), while published prestige classes are always designed (despite what the designer advertise!) for very few core classes to qualify, sometimes just 1.Turning prestige class features into feats can (if the DM wants) allow anyone belonging to the group learn the feature NOW or at least SOON, not after 5 levels of qualification.</blockquote>

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