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kenobi65 said:
Keith Olbermann. Yeah, that was a great bit.

"Sauerbrun was once suspended for violating the NFL's substance abuse policy. Now, he should be suspended for violating the NFL's stupid abuse policy!"

Of course, unless your kick coverage is spectacularly awful, it's really not all that stupid to kick to Hester. He fumbles a lot, and you give up a lot of yardage on a squib kick or kickoff out of bounds.
 

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drothgery said:
Of course, unless your kick coverage is spectacularly awful, it's really not all that stupid to kick to Hester. He fumbles a lot, and you give up a lot of yardage on a squib kick or kickoff out of bounds.

That was, actually, the point that Sauerbrun apparently made before the game, when he said that they were going to kick to Hester. He noted that they've got people who are paid to make those tackles.

The primary criticism of Sauerbrun that I've read (beyond Olbermann's rant) isn't that he kicked to Hester at all...it's that his kicks went to the middle of the field, rather than to one side or the other, thus giving Hester more real estate to work with. Then again, I'm no special-teams coach, so I don't know if that's really a valid criticism.

Regardless...Chicago's offense was moribund for much of that game. Giving up two kick-return touchdowns (and a blocked punt that set up a third touchdown) was what let Chicago back in that game.
 

kenobi65 said:
I was playing an online Living Arcanis game on Monday night, which meant I was away from my TV. So, I was following the Miami-Pittsburgh game using the live play-by-play page on NFL.com. I was amazed that it was 0-0 for most of the game, and figured Pittsburgh was just underachieving. Only after the game, when I was able to read the game summary, did I discover just how wretched the field conditions had been.
It was unbelievable. You couldn't even see the players' feet most of the time because they were sinking into the quagmire. Worst conditions I've ever seen, I think. And that's after decades of watching the Packers play. :)
 

Ilium said:
It was unbelievable. You couldn't even see the players' feet most of the time because they were sinking into the quagmire. Worst conditions I've ever seen, I think. And that's after decades of watching the Packers play. :)

Having seen the video highlights, I think my favorite shot was the punt that hit the turf and just sunk into a divot, without bouncing.

I've seen some seriously heavy rain at NFL games (especially in Florida), but those fields generally seem to handle it OK; I imagine that they're engineered to do so, knowing that they can expect those kinds of downpours.

In this case, it seems likely that the brand-new sod they'd laid the day before, combined with the water that leaked through the tarp during the day, just doomed them.
 

Well Favre killed my fantasy team this week. After being the MVP of my season, he throws 2 picks and then gets hurt. Fantasy football is a cruel mistress.
 

GlassJaw said:
Well Favre killed my fantasy team this week. After being the MVP of my season, he throws 2 picks and then gets hurt. Fantasy football is a cruel mistress.
I know, he really looked terrible last night.

I'm so depressed... :(

Aaron Rodgers looked surprisingly good. They kept it closer than I though they were going to. Doesn't bode well for the playoffs, though.

Hopefully Favre's injury isn't serious. I haven't heard anything.
 

Ilium said:
Hopefully Favre's injury isn't serious. I haven't heard anything.

Sprained right elbow, which caused his hand to go numb. In the postgame press conference, he said he'd suffered the same injury in the Patriots game last year, and had come back the following week with no problem.

Interestingly, he *also* has a separated left shoulder, which he wasn't even aware of at first. That one almost strikes me as more problematic.

The good news, I suppose, is that he's got 10 days to get better before the Raiders game.
 

kenobi65 said:
Interestingly, he *also* has a separated left shoulder, which he wasn't even aware of at first. That one almost strikes me as more problematic.

Bah, it's not his throwing shoulder. Suck it up! :)

I've dislocated my shoulder a couple of times and it is NO fun. A separated shoulder, I thought, was even worse. How could he not know?
 

Ilium said:
Bah, it's not his throwing shoulder. Suck it up! :)

I've dislocated my shoulder a couple of times and it is NO fun. A separated shoulder, I thought, was even worse. How could he not know?

Yeah, that's pretty astonishing. Apparently, when they took him into the locker room at halftime to look at the elbow, they discovered the shoulder injury. Brett must have some kind of pain threshhold.

Early word on Packers.com is that it's not expected that either injury will keep him out of the next game, but we'll see.

It was good to see Rodgers play well, at least. First time he's gotten any kind of significant playing time, in a meaningful game, and he kept them in it, on a night when the defense was looking rather suspect.
 

kenobi65 said:
It was good to see Rodgers play well, at least. First time he's gotten any kind of significant playing time, in a meaningful game, and he kept them in it, on a night when the defense was looking rather suspect.
Yeah. I "suspected" they were out there but I couldn't prove it. :D
 

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