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Message: <blockquote data-quote="CapnZapp" data-source="post: 5010800" data-attributes="member: 12731">No Doug, it's you who is missing the point.Having to always take all info rituals into account is a chore, it is predictable, and in the end, it is a waste of brain cells, because if you're not going to let the PCs use their rituals, why have them in the first place.Instead of handing out rituals that always work except when the DM hands out McGuffins to prevent them from working, how about handing out rituals that have unpredictable results already from the beginning?The point isn't that there might be ways to handle it.The point is that a DM shouldn't have to handle it at all. The problem should simply not be there.If Consult Oracle already from the beginning is written to allow the DM to only hand out the clues he's ready to hand out, then the end results are exactly the same, except that the DM doesn't need to spend hours thinking about counter-measures, and can concentrate on the real plot!Instead of making up new counter-rituals on the spot, why not simply write the original ritual in such a way no such counter-measures are needed in the first place?!</blockquote>