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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Manbearcat" data-source="post: 5975917" data-attributes="member: 6696971">MJ would be the first Fighter in DnD history to be primary Charisma, secondary Wisdom.  As great as his physical attributes were (and they were legend...he was quite literally a step change in evolution of athleticism from Dr J), his presence made his opponents wilt (visibly) and his teammates elevate through the sheer weight of his awe-inspiring self-determination.  That and his implacable will and uncanny intuition (basketball IQ) were what truly separated him from his contemporaries and all that came before him (and since).  Tiger was very similar pre-golfclub through his back window.  Outside of Tiger's various injuries you could probably say that he's no longer himself because he no longer perceives himself as bulletproof.  He got Charisma drained repeatedly over a 2 year span.  Sponsers hit him for 1d6 Cha + 3, Elin hit him for 2d6 Cha + 6, and all of his...ermmm...lady-friends...and the world's reaction to it all hit him for 3d6 Cha + 9.  No wonder the guy didn't leave the house for several months.  He must have been staring into space, slobbering all over himself with a Charisma of 0 for awhile.The guys who were basically just freakish, athletic robots would be Sampras at Wimbledon and Mariano Rivera from 1996 - 2008.</blockquote>