Nominations are up!!

[MulhorandSage]

Thanks guys!

Pencil Pushers got honorable mention and there was some really fine stuff put out this year. I can only imagine how time consuming the selection process became. The judges did a stellar job!

I was really glad that "Last Dominion" got the honorable mention. I haven't seen it yet, but I've liked the other stuff I've seen from you. (And Chiba Bob swears by it, at a level of enthusiasm that's rare from that particular 25+ year gamer, and I generally take him at his word -- so well done.)

Thanks to the judges for their hard work. I really like the format you've settled on for the last two years (the categories seem well-chosen) and I'm looking forward to the awards ceremony.

 

[Turjan]

I have no "Spread the love" policy, and don't think I would (as a judge) appreciate a policy of that nature.

I vote for what I personally find compelling (which this year seemed to be largely Superheroes, Superspies, Worlds and Cities)

I think the "policy" (such as it is) has always been something along the lines of what the Judges "judge" (and can adequately explain) to be best after discussion with their fellows.

Oh, I'm fine with that. I did in no way say that I'm discontent with the nominations. As far as I can see it, I don't see any nomination where I would outright say that it doesn't deserve it, and I know a great deal of the products.

But you have just to look at the categories "Best Campaign/Campaign Supplement", "Best Game", "Best d20/OGL Product" and "Best Product" in order to see that this could be divided in a completely different way. I won't detail this here now, because, actually, (i) I don't think it belongs here and (ii) I don't have any personal stake in these matters. That's something for next year and should not clutter this year's nominations thread.

 

[JoeGKushner]

I personally felt that Best D20/OGL thing should go out the window myself but as this is mainly a d20 site... and that OGL part is OGL meaning based on d20 SRD stylings so things like FUDGE were out in the cold.

 

[JoeGKushner]

It's limited in its current format too. The nominations are limited by the year they were published in, which of course makes sense, Ennies being a yearly business and all.

But you're still saying "You're not necessarily the best setting - only best of 2005 (or whatever)"

A nitpick

Well, isn't that what we are saying? You are the best of this year? I don't think we're trying to do the Superboy Prime think and punch time into retconning these nominations as the best of all time.

It might be interesting to see what a five year vote would do among the winners as that would give us five winners.

 

[Turjan]

What exactly would those mertis be? That hey, you really aren't the best, but because we put limits on what a product can be nominated in, we give you a thumbs up?

Choosing categories is akin to making politics. You can compare it to drawing the borders of electoral districts. That's what you have to think about when you do so.

And I stop it here, because, as I said, I'm not here to criticize the nominations. I simply agreed to a point Umbran brought up.

 

[HellHound]

Rasyr: You say you don't expect your comments to change the awards at this time. Then, instead of making them and harping on about them, how about waiting to be constructive when the awards aren't already taking up 150% of my wife's available time?

You know... basically any other time of the year except right now when the ENnies are at their peak and the people who work on them are working their BUTTS off on them? You want change for next year, then bring it up next year.



Listen, I'm an ENnies widower. I see my wife when we both get home from work. At which time she's working on the ENnies and all I get to hear about are the various publishers complaining about their nominations or lack thereof (yeah, last year I got to hear about one publisher who was so annoyed at BEING nominated that it became a huge issue), or about the nominations of OTHER products. We eat a quick dinner. I go to bed around midnight... she comes in some time between 2 and 3 am. When I wake up, she's already downstairs working on the ENnies until it is time to go to work. If any of you honestly think that ADDING to what she has to deal with is a good thing, feel free to call me at home and tell me all about it: 1-613-678-3880. I'll be glad to talk about it.

 

[Arnwyn]

If I'm not mistaken, this is just a random discussion thread on a public messageboard, with people simply discussing the nominations. Your wife (and yourself) are free to ignore this thread.

Of course, if people are directly emailing your wife, then I agree - not cool.

 

[Cthulhu's Librarian]

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[HellHound]

f I'm not mistaken, this is just a random discussion thread on a public messageboard, with people simply discussing the nominations. Your wife (and yourself) are free to ignore this thread.

Arnwyn: So, if you owned a company and someone on your company message board was discussing how badly something your company was doing was going, you would feel that it was appropriate to ignore the comments?

I was ignoring this thread.

I don't post to or read these forums currently with this one exception. However, as the manager of the ENnies, my wife doesn't have that privilege. She HAS to keep abreast of the situation, especially when the conversation occurs on the message board of ENWorld, owner of the ENnies. And thus my recommendation that people encourage her now, and bring their requests for changes up later, when things have slowed down a bit.

 

[Arnwyn]

Arnwyn: So, if you owned a company and someone on your company message board was discussing how badly something your company was doing was going, you would feel that it was appropriate to ignore the comments?

This question merits a simple "it depends".

I don't post to or read these forums currently with this one exception. However, as the manager of the ENnies, my wife doesn't have that privilege. She HAS to keep abreast of the situation, especially when the conversation occurs on the message board of ENWorld, owner of the ENnies. And thus my recommendation that people encourage her now, and bring their requests for changes up later, when things have slowed down a bit.

I suspect at this stage, one should probably continue working on the highest priority items - since it's probably too late to change most things (especially the nominations and categories!).

Any "fires" will likely be directly emailed/phoned/etc. A random thread probably doesn't qualify (and, seeing from the posts in this thread, that looks to be true).