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[JoeGKushner]

It's not like the old days of 128 page adventurers were 20 pages were spend describing some village and 80 the dungeon and 28 on game stats.

As products become larger they're simply able to do more than they used to. They can wear many hats.

 

[Umbran]

... it is an adventure (designed to take you from levels 1-20)...

You know, I think this here may be a problem. This is "an adventure"? It takes you from level 1 to 20 - this is a year or so of weekly gaming sessions, right? This is only one adventure? While how they market it isn't defining, we can at least take it into consideration - they don't call it an adventure. They call it an adventure path...

And methinks asking your regular kind of adventure to compete with this is probably like asking an orange to compete with apples. It isn't intended to save the same purpose.

 

[Vocenoctum]

In this sense Shackled City is a campaign setting. Phanteon is in the core books of D&D, and nothing else is really required. This from actual SC DMing experience.

Actually, I'd still consider the "core setting" to be setting material. Shackled City doesn't provide deities for example, it just builds off of Core Setting material.

For myself, I could see making "setting supplement or mega-module" something, since Shackled City being compared to a regular adventure doesn't really seem "fair".

 

[Turjan]

You know, I think this here may be a problem. This is "an adventure"? It takes you from level 1 to 20 - this is a year or so of weekly gaming sessions, right? This is only one adventure? While how they market it isn't defining, we can at least take it into consideration - they don't call it an adventure. They call it an adventure path...

When I first wanted to run the Shackled City, I considered converting it to the FR. Then it came to me: Why do I want to do that? If the players find "the adventure" interesting, they will never see anything else during their whole career. It's definitely a different beast.

 

[Ghostwind]

You know, I think this here may be a problem. This is "an adventure"? It takes you from level 1 to 20 - this is a year or so of weekly gaming sessions, right? This is only one adventure? While how they market it isn't defining, we can at least take it into consideration - they don't call it an adventure. They call it an adventure path...

And methinks asking your regular kind of adventure to compete with this is probably like asking an orange to compete with apples. It isn't intended to save the same purpose.

And yet more and more products are beginning to resemble this. For instance, Rappan Athuk Reloaded and World's Largest City are both due out this year. Certainly not your average adventures.

 

[Rystil Arden]

When I first wanted to run the Shackled City, I considered converting it to the FR. Then it came to me: Why do I want to do that? If the players find "the adventure" interesting, they will never see anything else during their whole career. It's definitely a different beast.

That might be a good idea if and only if we have enough of those megamodules coming out at a time to warrant an entire category (I believe the minimum is 9 and it is preferred that there be more than that). It is something to think about, however.

 

[diaglo]

And it is likely to only get worse as games continue to mature.

um... i beg to differ on this part only.

my games have been mature for years.

i kill things and take their stuff.

 

[DaveMage]

And yet more and more products are beginning to resemble this. For instance, Rappan Athuk Reloaded and World's Largest City are both due out this year. Certainly not your average adventures.

Maybe we need a "Super-Sized" category.

 

[diaglo]

It's not like the old days of 128 page adventurers were 20 pages were spend describing some village and 80 the dungeon and 28 on game stats.

As products become larger they're simply able to do more than they used to.

i think i mentioned T1-4 when during this discussion. the next to worst product TSR ever released. Shady Dragon Inn being the worst.

They can wear many hats.

i only wear my hat of d02 normally.

 

[Crothian]

Maybe we need an "Epic" or "Super-Sized" category.

There aren't going to be enough products like that. We have WLC, Ptolus, the DCC World, Rappan Athuk Reloaded...we'd need 5 others to have the minium for a category. So, even if Age of Worms Adventure Path gets the Shackled City treatment, I'm just not aware of anyone else doing something that would qualify.