Non-Core Class Survivor: Round 3

Which class do you want to vote off the list?

  • Ardent (Complete Psionics)

    Votes: 4 2.2%
  • Archivist (Heroes of Horror)

    Votes: 1 0.5%
  • Artificer (Eberron Campaign Setting)

    Votes: 5 2.7%
  • Beguiler (Player's Handbook II)

    Votes: 2 1.1%
  • Binder (Tome of Magic)

    Votes: 3 1.6%
  • Dragon Shaman (Player's Handbook II)

    Votes: 14 7.7%
  • Dread Necromancer (Heroes of Horror)

    Votes: 1 0.5%
  • Duskblade (Player's Handbook II)

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Favored Soul (Complete Divine)

    Votes: 9 4.9%
  • Hexblade (Complete Warrior)

    Votes: 10 5.5%
  • Incarnate (Magic of Incarnum)

    Votes: 10 5.5%
  • Knight (Player's Handbook II)

    Votes: 10 5.5%
  • Lurk (Complete Psionics)

    Votes: 4 2.2%
  • Ninja (Complete Adventurer)

    Votes: 8 4.4%
  • Psion (Expanded Psionics Handbook)

    Votes: 4 2.2%
  • Psychic Warrior (Expanded Psionics Handbook)

    Votes: 2 1.1%
  • Scout (Complete Adventurer)

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Shadowcaster (Tome of Magic)

    Votes: 4 2.2%
  • Shugenja (Complete Divine)

    Votes: 13 7.1%
  • Soulborn (Magic of Incarnum)

    Votes: 19 10.4%
  • Soulknife (Expanded Psionics Handbook)

    Votes: 6 3.3%
  • Spirit Shaman (Complete Divine)

    Votes: 3 1.6%
  • Swashbuckler (Complete Warrior)

    Votes: 17 9.3%
  • Totemist (Magic of Incarnum)

    Votes: 3 1.6%
  • Warlock (Complete Arcane)

    Votes: 2 1.1%
  • Warmage (Complete Arcane)

    Votes: 9 4.9%
  • Wilder (Expanded Psionics Handbook)

    Votes: 20 10.9%

  • Poll closed .
Not the Marshal! Noooo!

And now you want to eliminate the Dragon Shaman? Why all the hating on well-balanced support classes? Man, y'all are wack.
 

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Mercule said:
Ditto.

And, for the third time, You still forgot the Erudite from CPsi. I don't really care about the class one way or the other, but I keep mentioning it for completeness. In fact, I pointed it out before the Scout was even mentioned, IIRC.

I used the Class List to make up my list, and it's not included there as a class, but only as an "alternate Psion", so it doesn't make my list.
 


drothgery said:
Wilder. Wild mages suck. It'll keep getting my vote until it's gone.
Uh, the Wilder isn't a Wild Mage. It doesn't have any more randomness than a Wizard trying to cast her spells in armour with Arcane Spell Failure. With neither a random surge failure chart nor a caster level forced to vary from lower to higher than the true caster level, the Wilder does not resemble a Wild Mage in the slightest.
 


I'll leave out classes from books that I have not read, so Psi, Incarnum, Heroes of Horror, and Eberron stuff are out.

Out of the stuff that's left, I'm personally wanting to vote off the oriental flavoured stuff. Buh-bye, Shugenja.
 


Rystil Arden said:
Uh, the Wilder isn't a Wild Mage. It doesn't have any more randomness than a Wizard trying to cast her spells in armour with Arcane Spell Failure. With neither a random surge failure chart nor a caster level forced to vary from lower to higher than the true caster level, the Wilder does not resemble a Wild Mage in the slightest.

It does seem kind of random when it uses its primary ability, wild surge, which isn't well balanced either. I'll probably vote off the bad psionic classes last, but it and the soulknife are both begging to get kicked off the island.
 


Voted for wilder (again). I like psionics, but the wilder's limited powers, enervation, etc., just don't work for me, especially when the psion has access to similar abilities.
 

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