Non-Item Listening

[Eltern]

How to make a character with a GOOD listen check WITHOUT using magic items.

My thoughts so far:
Be an elf
Alertness Feat
Big wisdom
Incarnate with Feel Sound and See Sound
Skill Focus

Others?

Thanks,
Eltern

 

[Eltern]

Well, while I'm at it, I suppose I ought to say WHY I'm looking for this
There's a character IMC that is blind and is going with Incarnate See Sound to get a sort of sight. However, we realized that Listen then plays the double role of Spot and Search, which is crap. Is there a balanced way to divy up Listen into an "active listening" and "I-just-noticed-without-actively-paying-attention listening"?

Possibility is just to keep Spot as the normal Spot skill, given the way that he is percieving sound and whatnot, but...well, it takes some thinking to make sure the science of seeing sound makes sense

Thanks,
Eltern

 

[Lord Pendragon]

If the PC has a 19+ Wisdom, there's always Blindsight 5' Radius from Sword and Fist.

If the PC is a druid, even better, as they have access to a 60' Blindsight feat (don't remember the name...) in Masters of the Wild.

 

[Eltern]

Yeah, we toyed with Blindsight, but this way is so much more...fun
He's a monk, too, so no druid, and he wanted to be able to see more than 5'

Eltern

 

[CalrinAlshaw]

Maybe the monk could be allowed to take the feat multiple times increasing it by 5' per feat spent.

Calrin Alshaw

 

[hong]

How to make a character with a GOOD listen check WITHOUT using magic items.

My thoughts so far:
Be an elf
Alertness Feat
Big wisdom
Incarnate with Feel Sound and See Sound
Skill Focus

Others?

Thanks,
Eltern

Be really high level.

 

[Eltern]

Be really high level.

...Yes... that would work

I don't know if that method of improving blindsight would work effectively. By -18th- level he could see 30ft....I don't know, it doesn't seem like a doable route to me. And sound is so much more nifty.

Eltern