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<blockquote data-quote="JayBrickwall" data-source="post: 3940163" data-attributes="member: 57252"><p>"This I think is the entire problem. 4e seems to be D&D made by people who don't like D&D. And made for people who don't like D&D."</p><p></p><p>"That observation is worthy of being added as a signature."</p><p></p><p></p><p>If I worked at WotC as a game designer, and someone pointed out that post to me, and all the posts in agreement with it... I would be hard pressed to get out bed and go to work the next day. </p><p></p><p>I mean, are ENposters really advocating that the 4e WotC designers "don't like DnD"? Seriously? Its their project that they've thrown themselves into, and (probably) in some cases, staked their livelihoods on. And some ENposter is going to sit there and say something like that, as a consumer with 7% of the finalized information needed to justify it? </p><p></p><p>I hope none of the advocates of this statement have EVER, EVER tried to create anything, or add anything meaningful into a pursuit or hobby they partake in. But, if in the future you HATE something so much that you decide to make it your life's work for more than a year, I hope someone can come along and make the same statements about you and your project. (Yes, the original statement is a personal attack on the designers!) </p><p></p><p>Moderators, I feel like I've reigned in most of my outright disdain at this, and tried to post within the bounds of EN's rules and regulations... but if not... ban away. I won't be visiting these boards for awhile, until all the bile and conclusion-jumping (on both sides of the 4e issue) has passed and, books in hand, we can settle into a forum to discuss the game WE ALL PLAY AND LOVE, no matter what the front cover might say. </p><p></p><p>I mean, really? What a joke.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="JayBrickwall, post: 3940163, member: 57252"] "This I think is the entire problem. 4e seems to be D&D made by people who don't like D&D. And made for people who don't like D&D." "That observation is worthy of being added as a signature." If I worked at WotC as a game designer, and someone pointed out that post to me, and all the posts in agreement with it... I would be hard pressed to get out bed and go to work the next day. I mean, are ENposters really advocating that the 4e WotC designers "don't like DnD"? Seriously? Its their project that they've thrown themselves into, and (probably) in some cases, staked their livelihoods on. And some ENposter is going to sit there and say something like that, as a consumer with 7% of the finalized information needed to justify it? I hope none of the advocates of this statement have EVER, EVER tried to create anything, or add anything meaningful into a pursuit or hobby they partake in. But, if in the future you HATE something so much that you decide to make it your life's work for more than a year, I hope someone can come along and make the same statements about you and your project. (Yes, the original statement is a personal attack on the designers!) Moderators, I feel like I've reigned in most of my outright disdain at this, and tried to post within the bounds of EN's rules and regulations... but if not... ban away. I won't be visiting these boards for awhile, until all the bile and conclusion-jumping (on both sides of the 4e issue) has passed and, books in hand, we can settle into a forum to discuss the game WE ALL PLAY AND LOVE, no matter what the front cover might say. I mean, really? What a joke. [/QUOTE]
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