D&D 5E now that FR is the generic setting, is darksun also by extension?

[Charles Wright]

I would also like to point out that FR isn't the "default" or "generic" setting of 5E.

It's the setting of the first adventure series.

Those two things are mutually exclusive from one another. Heck, the cover of the PHB features the Fire Giant Snurre from "Against the Giants: Hall of the Fire Giant King". Decidedly not a Forgotten Realms module. The PHB is also riddle with references to many, if not all, of D&D's past properties.

Please go on with your cool discussions on the histories of the different lines, though.

 

[Mouseferatu]

As was discussed recently in another thread, Toril isn't the forerunner of Athas--but it'd be fascinating if Abeir was.

Foreign. Different races. Little if any divinity. Ruled by the primordials, which are elemental beings. It has dragon monarchs with humanoids slaves. There couldn't be a much better "pre-apocalypse Athas" than Abeir if people sat down and tried to define one.

 

[Scrivener of Doom]

(snip) That is Dark Sun in my campaign -- it's inhabitants think they're on a scorched rock of a world long since abandoned by the Gods, but they're actually just in Australia.

As an Australian I have to say that I heartily approve of this entire idea!

As was discussed recently in another thread, Toril isn't the forerunner of Athas--but it'd be fascinating if Abeir was.

Foreign. Different races. Little if any divinity. Ruled by the primordials, which are elemental beings. It has dragon monarchs with humanoids slaves. There couldn't be a much better "pre-apocalypse Athas" than Abeir if people sat down and tried to define one.

Now that I can agree with.

It also provides a ready-made idea for those who want to turn Abeir into a new campaign setting: stop Dark Sun from happening!

 

[transtemporal]

One of the dragon kings did something particularly bad and ended up getting their own land in Ravenloft. Or maybe it was one of his templars? I forget.

Sorcerer Queen Kalid-Ma - she tried to do the ziggurat thing to drain the life from her city (Kalidnay) and power-up her dragon transformation. Ravenloft swallowed up the entire city.

Heh, I'd forgotten that bit from Baldurs Gate. Was a cool easter egg.

 

[Scorpio616]

I'd say as 'default' as it was in the 2E Planescape era. The setting's remoteness and difficulty to access keep knowledge of it a very rare bit of info. Getting there probably will necessitate finding a portal to there on an outer plane or a well worded wish; though a poorly worded wish might ALSO wind you up in that blasted hell planet.

The setting's poverty also helps keep folks in the know away, sure you'd find buyers for metal, but most the folks powerful enough to do any significant buying can also Jedi mind trick you into giving them the metal.