Now WotC has taken Dragonlance (merged)

[Morrus]

How dare you? How dare you compare Scott to someone who killed millions of human beings?

Please ignore it - it's an alt ID created specifically by a previously banned user to cause trouble. It's being dealt with. IP searches are fun.

 

[lurkinglidda]

Please ignore it - it's an alt ID created specifically by a previously banned user to cause trouble. It's being dealt with. IP searches are fun.

Consider it ignored then.

Heck of a way to get someone from WotC to finally respond, no?

 

[Olgar Shiverstone]

Please ignore it - it's an alt ID created specifically by a previously banned user to cause trouble. It's being dealt with. IP searches are fun.

Ah. I thought that sound I heard was the +5 banhammer being wielded in anger.

 

[Morrus]

Consider it ignored then.

Heck of a way to get someone from WotC to finally respond, no?

I think that's the idea - causing trouble. Please, if you see this sort of thing, don't reply to it - just report it. He wants people to react to it.

 

[TheAuldGrump]

I believe it was in their printed advertising flier, and on their forums, but I am way too lazy to go digging for something that, frankly, was not all that important to me. If you prefer to think of it as fan speculation then go right ahead. Heck, maybe my memory is being faulty. But I do remember it, I want to say that it was Justin Achilles, but again I could be wrong.

Not just the Gazetteers either - sales of the 3.5 updated player's guide, DM's Guide, and critter books were also sluggish (and according to some sources badly edited as well). Renaming the player's book also did not help. Cutting their losses at that point made sense - I do not fault either WW or WotC in this instance. Finding fault with WW for what they did to the Storyteller rules on the other hand... that I can do. (I like the changes to the setting alright, but hate the new rules.) If you have a limited pool of creative designers then it is best to put them where you think they will do the most good - and since WoD belongs to WW then that is more profit that can go in your pocket.

And I believe that you can still get the Ravenloft PDFs on DTRPG.

And on to a semi-related topic... Did Paizo and Weiss get their licenses at the same time? I am not remembering that point clearly at all. If so, then it is possible that this is a literal coincidence. The licenses ended together because they were made at the same time.

I am far more annoyed with the Dragon and Dungeon situation than the DL one, I have actually been buying Dungeon lately, hooked by Savage Tides. I have not done more than glance at the DL books.

The Auld Grump

I don't know where this comes from, other than fan speculations. Really. We've watched closely everything WW has released about RL, since it's our preferred setting.

Once, a while ago, the developers said the sales of the RL Gazetteers in particular were disappointing.

But when the license end announcement came, there were no comments of that sort about sales or licence price, as far as I know. WW sent out the same laconic announcement as Dragonlance's (I think not saying anything is part of the license )

But if you have a link saying otherwise, I'd be very interested to read it.

Joël

 

[TheAuldGrump]

I think that's the idea - causing trouble. Please, if you see this sort of thing, don't reply to it - just report it. He wants people to react to it.

Heh, when I read the banished one's thread all I thought was 'well, that's a stupid thing to say.' I may be a tad miffed with the WotC over Dungeon magazine, but it really is not in the same camp there....

The Auld Grump, who curbed his urge to make a snarky comment about this....

 

[00Machado]

Does withdrawal of a license typically mean that they can't reprint books also?

YEs, typically they're allowed to seel remaining inventory and that's it.

 

[00Machado]

Nothing about Ed's Greenwood Castlemourn ?

I don't think this is a wotc property.

 

[Dire Bare]

They haven't done anything with any of the other settings that were put on hiatus (RL, BR, DS, PS, etc. etc.)...so I'm not sure why we'd think this time would be different.

One of the nice things about the licensing was that those of us who liked some of these settings that WotC didn't see money in could get our fix....in many cases, the products were better than TSR had done for those settings. Now, if they're just back in hiatus, I'm not sure who it really serves..

Banshee

Err, wrong. Wasn't Expedition to CASTLE RAVENLOFT just released a few months ago?

Wouldn't be surprised to see an Expedition to Pax Tharkas or something like that pop up in the not so distant future. Or more likely, the Dragonlance Movie RPG Companion or such.

 

[Banshee16]

Err, wrong. Wasn't Expedition to CASTLE RAVENLOFT just released a few months ago?

Wouldn't be surprised to see an Expedition to Pax Tharkas or something like that pop up in the not so distant future. Or more likely, the Dragonlance Movie RPG Companion or such.

Expedition to Castle Ravenloft, which was a remake of the original module that came before Ravenloft became a setting. So it's really not even applicable.

Expedition to Dragonlance....not exactly sure what you could do with that. How can you distill what used to be an entire game setting into a single module?

Banshee