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NuTSR Sells Rebound 1E Core Rulebooks For $650 Each
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<blockquote data-quote="Abstruse" data-source="post: 8587959" data-attributes="member: 6669048"><p>This is a separate issue because it's not trying to claim it's something that it's not. In the case of Star Frontiers and the TSR LLC and all that, they are (according to WotC's legal claim) attempting to deceive consumers by stating that it is a new version of the original Star Frontiers and that TSR is the same as the original TSR formed in 1973. In this case (assuming they're selling legally-purchased physical copies of the books simply rebound), they are not attempting to claim they are something they are not. If you buy Deities & Demigods or Fiend Folio or whatever, you are getting that product. And it is the original product from the original creator, simply pre-owned and modified.</p><p></p><p>Imagine it's a car. I bought a Honda Accord. I repaint that Honda Accord. I then want to resell that Honda Accord. I am legally allowed to do so because I purchased the car through legal means, and I am allowed to call it by its trademarked name "Honda Accord" because that's what it is. I am even allowed to use the original Honda Accord logos that are on the car. To continue this as an analogy, the question would be whether I can pry off the original Honda logo from the hood ornament and paint my own version of the Honda logo on the hood. It may or may not be a trademark violation because it's a different trademark from the original, but I am not using it in an attempt to deceive consumers because what I am selling is still a Honda Accord.</p><p></p><p>But yeah, the two big questions here are 1) if they're rebinding existing printed copies of the books in question and 2) if they're legally allowed to use their own versions of the trademarked logos on the cover.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Abstruse, post: 8587959, member: 6669048"] This is a separate issue because it's not trying to claim it's something that it's not. In the case of Star Frontiers and the TSR LLC and all that, they are (according to WotC's legal claim) attempting to deceive consumers by stating that it is a new version of the original Star Frontiers and that TSR is the same as the original TSR formed in 1973. In this case (assuming they're selling legally-purchased physical copies of the books simply rebound), they are not attempting to claim they are something they are not. If you buy Deities & Demigods or Fiend Folio or whatever, you are getting that product. And it is the original product from the original creator, simply pre-owned and modified. Imagine it's a car. I bought a Honda Accord. I repaint that Honda Accord. I then want to resell that Honda Accord. I am legally allowed to do so because I purchased the car through legal means, and I am allowed to call it by its trademarked name "Honda Accord" because that's what it is. I am even allowed to use the original Honda Accord logos that are on the car. To continue this as an analogy, the question would be whether I can pry off the original Honda logo from the hood ornament and paint my own version of the Honda logo on the hood. It may or may not be a trademark violation because it's a different trademark from the original, but I am not using it in an attempt to deceive consumers because what I am selling is still a Honda Accord. But yeah, the two big questions here are 1) if they're rebinding existing printed copies of the books in question and 2) if they're legally allowed to use their own versions of the trademarked logos on the cover. [/QUOTE]
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