Nymph's Kiss question~

[Artoomis]

I don't know. Considering how those fey hussies go about acquiring "long-term" relationships with males, I'd think that a low-level character's reliably poor will-save would be a prerequisite to such a relationship.

Perhaps so, but I would think you'd have been "seduced" at first level and call it long-term by maybe 3rd or 4th level - if the relationship developed into something more.

That's my point - entering a relationship thinking it will be long-term is not enough.

It strains credibility to think that such a relationship would exist before one's adventuring career even begins.

 

[James McMurray]

You quadruple first level skill points from a class because the class entry says :skill points at 1st level: (x + intelligence modifier) x 4.

You do not quadruple the skill points from Nymph's Kiss because the feat says "you gain one extra skill point per level".

 

[Lord Pendragon]

It strains credibility to think that such a relationship would exist before one's adventuring career even begins.

Only if you assume that all 1st-level characters must be youths just starting out in life. I've often played 1st-level characters that were much older, middle-aged even, before beginning an adventuring career. Imagine a farmer who lives near a wood with a nymph in it. He might have a relationship with a nymph for years before his farm is destroyed, and he takes to adventuring (gaining his first level of fighter).

Generally, I think a good backstory can preserve credibility for almost anything. The rules answer, IMO, would be to multiply the extra skill point, just as you do with the human +1 skill point per level.

 

[CRGreathouse]

Verisimilitude. The quality or state of being verisimilar.

Verisimilar. Having the appearance of truth.

That's a mighty fancy word for believability. I wonder how many folks did NOT know that? Not that I am asking anyone to admit it.

I don't think of it as a particularly uncommon word. It's the word the DMG uses to describe ideal worldbuilding choices, as I recall, and it's tossed around quite a bit on D&D messageboards.

It's probably overused, actually -- it's the preferred substitute for "realism" when in a world that has magic as a typical force.

 

[Sejs]

(this space for rent)

 

[Scion]

My dm ruled that taking it at first level grants 4 skill points. After all, it took a pretty huge investment for me to get it then anyway

A character that has grown up in a place where fey exist can easily have a long term relationship, just like a first level character could have a gf, or a parent or a sibling. Adoptions might occur, that sort of thing. In the end there are a nearly unlimited number of ways that it could happen, so pick one.

As far as mine goes 'intimate' is translated to 'familial', my grandmother is a nymph. Makes for a very interesting background, and flavors the whole character. This is a good thing btw.

 

[Trainz]

Verisimilitude. The quality or state of being verisimilar.

Verisimilar. Having the appearance of truth.

That's a mighty fancy word for believability. I wonder how many folks did NOT know that? Not that I am asking anyone to admit it.

Heh...

For the record, english isn't my first language, so I tend to use big and small words in or out of context. Some ENworlders have learned to indulge me.

That said... when trying to talk about realism in RPG's, realism isn't always proper. Indeed, how can one talk about realism in a world about dragons and fireballs ?

In fact, many years before ENworld, or Eric Noah's 3rd edition news, I was hanging on news:rec.games.frp.dnd to get my RPG fix. Often, a poster would criticise another poster's opinion by saying something such as "You can't do this, that's not realistic" to which the other poster would reply "How can you talk about realism in a fantasy game ? ?". This argument has been going on for years and years.

NOW...

One must be able to express himself when wanting to describe something as to remain logical within the fantasy setting itself. "Realistic" isn't the best way to achieve this (don't take my word for it, years of usenet archives contain enough examples), so we must use a different terminology.

Verisimilitude is as good as any, and is being used more and more to describe something consistent within the fantasy parameters.

Huh...

Sorry for the thread-jack.

I am ashamed...

 

[Jhulae]

My dm ruled that taking it at first level grants 4 skill points. After all, it took a pretty huge investment for me to get it then anyway

Nice DM.

If you read the section for how to level a character, feats are the *last* thing done (if I recall correctly). The same (should) apply to 1st level, meaning you'd have already spent your skill points when the feat is aquired, hence, no 4 skill points for the feat.

 

[Scion]

Nice DM.

If you read the section for how to level a character, feats are the *last* thing done (if I recall correctly). The same (should) apply to 1st level, meaning you'd have already spent your skill points when the feat is aquired, hence, no 4 skill points for the feat.

From what I recall there is no definate order for them in 3.0, just however is most beneficial to the character or however the dm wishes the order to be. Plus, for first level characters things could happen at any time, this character had been with his grandma practically since he was born.. definately had that extra bit going for him from early on

Edit: just checked, feats are chosen before skills, so it works either way.

 

[Jhulae]

From what I recall there is no definate order for them in 3.0, just however is most beneficial to the character or however the dm wishes the order to be. Plus, for first level characters things could happen at any time, this character had been with his grandma practically since he was born.. definately had that extra bit going for him from early on

Edit: just checked, feats are chosen before skills, so it works either way.

Actually, it was also in the 3.0 books, just not in an obvious place. We'd had a discussion a while back about when things were taken, too.

And, on page 58 of the 3.5 PHB (I don't have a 3.0 PHB any longer and not sure where the 3.0 SRD is), step 6 is choose skills while Step 7 is choose feats. I'm pretty sure it was the same in 3.0.