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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Valador" data-source="post: 6494312" data-attributes="member: 6782907">First off, thanks for the feedback!The +CHA bonus is for the attack rolls, not the damage rolls. Unless I've misread. That's why I liked it better because it can be applied to anyone I attack with that specific weapon.While I agree that this would be great to root a caster in place, most situations I've seen is that there are a.) enemies in between to deal with first, b.) the battle area is confined enough that range isn't an issue, c.) our party has a ranged attacker, or d.) we're out in the open and the paladin will probably never get within 10 feet of a smart caster. That's just MY personal experience. Mileage may very I suppose.Once again I can't justify Abjure being stronger than the Devotion oath simply because it ONLY works on one target. Vow of Enmity is nice, I'll agree, but personally I would take +CHA to hit EVERYONE vs. +advantage versus one target. Granted the average bonus from advantage may be higher than a normal CHA bonus, I think being able to use it on more enemies makes it superior.    We more or less agreed on this one. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":-)" title="Smile    :-)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":-)" />Soul of Vengeance is nice, but it's the availability that deters me. The fact that it is solely dependant on still having your channel available really annoys me. It doesn't require an extra use, it just requires that you hadn't used your channel already because you need your channel available to cast Vow of Enmity in order for Soul of Vengeance to take effect. So the fact that it has to piggyback off of that really upsets me. If that wasn't the case, if Vow of Enmity/Soul of Vengeance didn't require the channel cost, then it would be great in my book.I appreciate the feedback, and I can clearly see where you're coming from. I guess it's really just a difference in playstyle. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":-)" title="Smile    :-)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":-)" />Hopefully we can get some more ideas/comments snowballing in here.Edited : Using my smartphone to post, the structure and some quotes were messed up. Sorry!</blockquote>

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