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Official 'Alter Self' item?

Mistwell said:
The reason I am saying this is, in particular, the spell Alter Sellf must have a TON of choices selected at the time of use, and it if is always on, then you really are talking about a different spell.

In addition, I think it would be overpowered to do it strictly by the guideline prices as it is not a true guage of the exact power of this particular item. Multiply by 1.5 vasting underrates the power of a continuous use alter self, as it does not account for the number of different forms you can take all in the same day.

Bleargh. I wouldn't like to buy an argument. I agree on all counts. I was merely pointing it out that, priced by the guidelines, it's 18k for a continous 'Alter Self'. Which, admittedly, doesn't make much sense, since you have to make choices for the spell.

If you (that being, Mistwell as well as anyone that cares) were going to create an item (slotted I guess), that let you 'Alter Self' into one, particular person (that is, all variables of the spell are set in stone and it turns you into a mundane human) with infinite duration, what would you price it at?

Calypso
 

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calypso15 said:
Bleargh. I wouldn't like to buy an argument. I agree on all counts. I was merely pointing it out that, priced by the guidelines, it's 18k for a continous 'Alter Self'. Which, admittedly, doesn't make much sense, since you have to make choices for the spell.

If you (that being, Mistwell as well as anyone that cares) were going to create an item (slotted I guess), that let you 'Alter Self' into one, particular person (that is, all variables of the spell are set in stone and it turns you into a mundane human) with infinite duration, what would you price it at?

Calypso

Given it is much lower in power than Alter Self. I'd say 3000 (essentially a continual hat of disguise x1.5), perhaps a bit more depending on how powerful your DM thinks it is to actually transform as opposed to look like you transformed based on an illusion.

Also, Alter Form lets you take on the racial skills, feats, natural armor, etc.. of the creature whose form you are assuming. If it's just a human, that doesn't mean much. But if you assume the form of something that would be a higher LA than +0 if that thing were a character, I would raise the price. For example, if the item were fixed to any of the following, I would charge more (sometimes a lot more) for the item: Avarial (Humanoid Winged Elves), Asabi (Desert-Reptilian Humanoids that have a burrow speed and a 50' move), Locathah (Fish-like Humanoid with a swim speed), Spirit Folk: Mountain (Humanoid with a climb speed), Tren (Lizard-like Humanoid with a lot of natural armor), or Skulk (Camouflaged Humanoid with a high move silent and hide racial bonus).
 
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