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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Justice and Rule" data-source="post: 8910819" data-attributes="member: 6778210">I'm sorry, no. I've got the text of the article on my side. You can try to switch it up for any number of reasons not named in the article, but from the article itself it is pretty clear what they are talking about.That really wouldn't matter when it comes to the breadth of deletions going on. It takes a lot more effort and dedication to delete rather than simply cancel. I'm waiting to do it, if only to give Wizards a slight chance. But it's tossing away hundreds of dollars worth of purchases. I think you are severely underestimating how much this means.They don't need to sue. Wizards needs to make the move to enforce their copyright. Paizo and others just need to defend, and have plenty of defense in that regard. It's going to be on Wizards to actively defend themselves, and I'm not sure they were expecting a whole bunch of games to come out against them. They definitely didn't I mean, it's not. Wizards has been going about its business trying to consolidate the brand completely inside the company. Just look at the stupidity of what it did with Gale Force Nine, who they had a contract that GF9 was faithfully adhering to. Why would you trust a company that attempted to bully a bunch of 3PPs into a bad contract via NDAs and a ticking clock? The idea that they want to control the industry is pretty clear given what they are doing with the old OGL and their new VTT policy. It's pretty clear that they want to be the only game in the business, and this move really solidifies it. That it didn't work initially doesn't really change that it's clearly still their objective. At this point, there's no point to take any Wizards action as being in good-faith until they make a serious concession, such as regarding OGL 1.0a. Actions speak louder than words, and no amount of casting "Friends" is going to get around the fact that they failed their Deception check.Ah, so feedback on things that matter are meaningless, but we get to decide the wallpaper in our cell. Great!  <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f606.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":LOL:" title="Laugh    :LOL:"  data-smilie="17"data-shortname=":LOL:" /> This kind of proves my point: OGL 1.2 is a non-starter. They don't want to change anything that needs changing, and why forgive and forget when they aren't correcting the thing I got angry at them for? If you come into house and wreck up the place, saying you're sorry doesn't suddenly absolve you of your actions, especially when your apology is "I'll help you move in any new stuff you buy to replace the old stuff I broke".I mean, they kind of are. When you have one big dog in the industry, it is a stifling thing because people are generally attracted to the standard, the status quo option. When everyone plays D&D, people want to put money into something that everyone plays. Not having that top dog means people might invest in other things because there is not one automatic choice anymore.Also there is plenty of PF2 3PP. The difference is that Paizo has a pretty quick, robust schedule when it comes to making content. They don't need 3PPs to fill in the obvious niches because they are already doing that themselves. But there are absolutely 3PPs that are doing well there.What? The idea that people will just leave RPGs just because it's not D&D is utterly inane in ways I cannot even begin to describe. If D&D falters, that means people can go elsewhere. If it's just casual fans, then they are people who were never going to help 3PPs in the first place. What happens is that Wizards gets a bit smaller and other companies can get a bit bigger as those players look for alternatives.You talk about how there will only be table scraps left, but Wizbro's plan basically means that you'll still be scraps with the threat that you could become the next course at any given moment.Yeah, that might be bad if there weren't a whole bunch of people signing up and looking to create like their own OGLs. Free League is a good example of one that didn't have one before, but will in the future.Okay, and? The decision you are defending literally allows Wizards to kill off the 3PP market at their whim. The companies themselves have said as such, and there is no reason to believe they won't try to exert that power given how they have been acting regarding their business relationships recently and their attempt to strong-arm companies into OGL 1.1. If you were worried about 3PPs, you'd be listening to them instead of trying to coax people into accepting a system that would give them no agency and put them at the complete mercy of Wizards.</blockquote>

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