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<blockquote data-quote="Victim" data-source="post: 5235000" data-attributes="member: 78">Only sort of.Essentially, the standard 4e convention enforces variety of everything except at wills.&nbsp; Even if you really like Rain of Blows, Storm of Blades, whatever, you can't use it all the time.&nbsp; The other powers are important too.&nbsp; If maybe you like one of your level 3 powers over some of the level 7s, it's not a big deal.&nbsp; As a general rule, they're both on the character sheet so both will get used.&nbsp; OTOH, with the power point system, it's really easy to repeat using the same power, and all of your encounter powers are competing with each other.&nbsp; Repetition of the same power is going to magnify whatever imbalances exist: if X is strong, then powers Y and Z can sit unused as everything goes toward using X three times.Plus the cost structure tends against the way powers normally upgrade.&nbsp; Come and Get It is a level 7 close burst 3 for a W.&nbsp; At level 23, you get an upgrade to it in Warrior's Urging, which is a level 23 close burst 4 for 2W.&nbsp; It's a bit better than what you had before.&nbsp; However, in the power point system, the choice isn't between having Come and Get It versus the Warrior's Urging.&nbsp; Instead, you can have 3 of the lower level power versus 1 of the epic level power.&nbsp; Suddenly, upgrading your powers has a downside.To put things simply, the power point structure can tolerate far less variation in effectiveness between powers than the standard system.&nbsp; So, yes, it is the powers.&nbsp; But it's the powers because the PP system exacerbates imbalances; it requires much tighter tolerances.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Victim, post: 5235000, member: 78"] Only sort of. Essentially, the standard 4e convention enforces variety of everything except at wills. Even if you really like Rain of Blows, Storm of Blades, whatever, you can't use it all the time. The other powers are important too. If maybe you like one of your level 3 powers over some of the level 7s, it's not a big deal. As a general rule, they're both on the character sheet so both will get used. OTOH, with the power point system, it's really easy to repeat using the same power, and all of your encounter powers are competing with each other. Repetition of the same power is going to magnify whatever imbalances exist: if X is strong, then powers Y and Z can sit unused as everything goes toward using X three times. Plus the cost structure tends against the way powers normally upgrade. Come and Get It is a level 7 close burst 3 for a W. At level 23, you get an upgrade to it in Warrior's Urging, which is a level 23 close burst 4 for 2W. It's a bit better than what you had before. However, in the power point system, the choice isn't between having Come and Get It versus the Warrior's Urging. Instead, you can have 3 of the lower level power versus 1 of the epic level power. Suddenly, upgrading your powers has a downside. To put things simply, the power point structure can tolerate far less variation in effectiveness between powers than the standard system. So, yes, it is the powers. But it's the powers because the PP system exacerbates imbalances; it requires much tighter tolerances. [/QUOTE]

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