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<blockquote data-quote="painted_klown" data-source="post: 6488729" data-attributes="member: 6785485">We haven't actually played yet. I was trying to learn character creation from reading the rules and using the pre-gen characters as a guideline of sorts. Some specific things that threw me off were the way the numbers were written in for the attack roll and damage roll. I couldn't figure out how they were coming to the conclusions they did, or what to add to where. All of this confusion has been cleared up ITT already. Another thing was passive perception, but I figured that out from a youtube video. I also had questions about combat, but those too have been cleared up ITT. Once I realized the pre-gen sheets were designed so the players could roll the die and add a single #, it made a lot more sense. It will be easy for me to explain to the PCs how combat works using the pre-gens, to be sure. But with the players I will have, they will all want to know how to get to that #, instead of being told &quot;Use this and don't ask questions as to why, because we don't want to tell you&quot;.&nbsp; That's not intellectually satisfying at all, and nobody wants to feel like their being told &quot;I would explain it, but you're too stupid to understand&quot;. The group of players I have are all really smart people, they WILL want to know what everything means, and how to get to the same conclusions. Playing without knowing will feel like you're going through the motions without knowing why. I wouldn't be happy with that, and knowing my players, they wouldn't either. In fact, they are excited to create their own characters, more than wanting to use the pre-gen ones. They are going to want to know the answers to these types of questions, and as the DM, I feel it's my job to know how to answer them. Perhaps contrary to popular belief, most people don't want &quot;dumbed down/watered down&quot; information to get started. They just want a clear explanation as to what the detailed information means. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></blockquote>

[QUOTE="painted_klown, post: 6488729, member: 6785485"] We haven't actually played yet. I was trying to learn character creation from reading the rules and using the pre-gen characters as a guideline of sorts. Some specific things that threw me off were the way the numbers were written in for the attack roll and damage roll. I couldn't figure out how they were coming to the conclusions they did, or what to add to where. All of this confusion has been cleared up ITT already. Another thing was passive perception, but I figured that out from a youtube video. I also had questions about combat, but those too have been cleared up ITT. Once I realized the pre-gen sheets were designed so the players could roll the die and add a single #, it made a lot more sense. It will be easy for me to explain to the PCs how combat works using the pre-gens, to be sure. But with the players I will have, they will all want to know how to get to that #, instead of being told "Use this and don't ask questions as to why, because we don't want to tell you". That's not intellectually satisfying at all, and nobody wants to feel like their being told "I would explain it, but you're too stupid to understand". The group of players I have are all really smart people, they WILL want to know what everything means, and how to get to the same conclusions. Playing without knowing will feel like you're going through the motions without knowing why. I wouldn't be happy with that, and knowing my players, they wouldn't either. In fact, they are excited to create their own characters, more than wanting to use the pre-gen ones. They are going to want to know the answers to these types of questions, and as the DM, I feel it's my job to know how to answer them. Perhaps contrary to popular belief, most people don't want "dumbed down/watered down" information to get started. They just want a clear explanation as to what the detailed information means. :) [/QUOTE]

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