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Message: <blockquote data-quote="malladin" data-source="post: 3961921" data-attributes="member: 8230">I saw this elsewhere and it says it all about the situation I find from a not going to 4th ed position.Thorn #1 are the handful of posters that are "on my side," but they don't stop and stating what they don't like about 4th edition, they don't stop at saying they aren't planning on buying it. They have to go the extra mile and say that WOTC is intentionally putting out crap, that they have never put out good products, and that ever since they bought TSR, they have been engaged in a grand conspiracy to "force" us to buy crap and then sit back and laugh at us. I'm not happy with WOTC right now, and there have been some products I had little use for, or that I thought could have been a lot better . . . but if I didn't like any of their work, why did I buy everything I did? And furthermore, when you have hyperbole machines going full steam "on your side," it makes it hard for people to cut through all of that to see the actual good points made by some of the anti 4th edition types.Thorn #2 is the 4th edition supporter that doesn't really want to debate anything. He wants to answer every single 4th edition thread, and when people show a preference to the way things used to be presented, he tries to dismiss any personal preference by saying that those that have a personal preference don't realize that D&D is a game, and that such people with preferences are lost in a fantasy world and can't deal with reality. Our petty concerns are beneath him . . . or at least they are far enough beneath him that he can dismiss them, but not far enough that he doesn't feel obligated to pop in and respond to remind us that they are beneath him.Seriously, I want to hear everyone's opinion on this thing, and I realize I'm not always going to agree with people, and from time to time, I'm going to loose it and say something dumb. I'm sorry for that, but I really, really, am getting tired of every thread on 4th edition going like this:Thorn #1: X bit of information about 4th edition just proves that WOTC sucks. Its more of the horrible crap they have been selling for years, and its obvious they have no talent and only care about money, and they are intentionally making D&D into horrid crap, and trying to force us to buy it.Thorn #2: I'm amazed that anyone cares about X. If you don't like it, you can ignore it, but if you are emotionally connected to any of this, then you obviously can't distinguish reality from fantasy. Its clear that the designers are make a great game, and if you realized it was a game, then you would realize that things can change at any time if it is even remotely good for game design. In fact, I like X, but if they change X next week without any explanation, I'd be fine with that, because a devotion to continuity is the sign of a diseased mind.Maybe we should just not try to be thorns!</blockquote>

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