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<blockquote data-quote="ThirdWizard" data-source="post: 3962302" data-attributes="member: 12037"><p>If I go to a Dark Sun message board and list all the reasons I hate Dark Sun and I go to a Planescape D&D board and list all the reasons I love Planescape (note: I do not hate Dark Sun!), which is most likely to create a more productive thread? This 4e forum is made up of more pro-4e people than anti-4e people, and it will probably remain that way unless something goes terribly terribly wrong in design. I'm not trying to make any judgment calls, just pointing out the reality of the situation.</p><p></p><p>Yes, critique is fine. When someone sees something that they specifically have reasons to be doubtful of its final form in the PHB, they have a right to speak up. However, for people who are overwhelmingly anti-4e, this is probably not going to be the best place to express these views, especially after the books are released next year. I don't really like 1e D&D. I do not point this out on these forums! And, for good reason, I like to think.</p><p></p><p>Right now, 4e hasn't been released yet. I think the general lack of information is why its okay to harp against it right now. I don't like it, personally, but it makes sense being that none of us should be personally attached to 4e yet, logically, since we haven't seen it. It doesn't work like that in real life, but it really should. Oh well, nobody ever said people were logical. Certainly nobody says that about the internet. Well, with a straight face anyway. </p><p></p><p>We don't know if its going to be good. We don't know if its going to be bad. One person speculates it'll be great, another that it'll tank, and nobody can say for certain yet. So, we're free to randomly speculate as we see fit. <em>But</em>, doing so comes with a price, and that price is flaming, passive-aggressive posting, and trolling. And, as far as I can see, that's just the way it is. I'd love it if it weren't, and I try my best not to involve myself in any of it, but I'm not going to pretend to be surprised that that's what happening.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="ThirdWizard, post: 3962302, member: 12037"] If I go to a Dark Sun message board and list all the reasons I hate Dark Sun and I go to a Planescape D&D board and list all the reasons I love Planescape (note: I do not hate Dark Sun!), which is most likely to create a more productive thread? This 4e forum is made up of more pro-4e people than anti-4e people, and it will probably remain that way unless something goes terribly terribly wrong in design. I'm not trying to make any judgment calls, just pointing out the reality of the situation. Yes, critique is fine. When someone sees something that they specifically have reasons to be doubtful of its final form in the PHB, they have a right to speak up. However, for people who are overwhelmingly anti-4e, this is probably not going to be the best place to express these views, especially after the books are released next year. I don't really like 1e D&D. I do not point this out on these forums! And, for good reason, I like to think. Right now, 4e hasn't been released yet. I think the general lack of information is why its okay to harp against it right now. I don't like it, personally, but it makes sense being that none of us should be personally attached to 4e yet, logically, since we haven't seen it. It doesn't work like that in real life, but it really should. Oh well, nobody ever said people were logical. Certainly nobody says that about the internet. Well, with a straight face anyway. We don't know if its going to be good. We don't know if its going to be bad. One person speculates it'll be great, another that it'll tank, and nobody can say for certain yet. So, we're free to randomly speculate as we see fit. [i]But[/i], doing so comes with a price, and that price is flaming, passive-aggressive posting, and trolling. And, as far as I can see, that's just the way it is. I'd love it if it weren't, and I try my best not to involve myself in any of it, but I'm not going to pretend to be surprised that that's what happening. [/QUOTE]
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