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<blockquote data-quote="Dinkeldog" data-source="post: 4004724" data-attributes="member: 195"><p>(Set, this isn't directed at you by any means, I just wanted to respond to this topic.)</p><p></p><p>I think the key is always to try to self-moderate your tone. The people that tend to annoy me will put in a comment like, "Just another reason to not go with 4E." That will spring the "hater" reflex in me, then I tend to discount everything else. People that instead say things like, "Well, I'm not sure why they would do that, it doesn't make much sense right now," spring the "reasonable skeptic" reflex in me. I don't mind reasonable skeptics, but hating gets annoying, especially when I'm looking for some discussion on what a change is and what it might be hinting at.</p><p></p><p>I'll also admit that while I'm generally positive, there are some things that I wish made the 2008 cut--basically gnomes and druids with a side order of psionics. But if they're cut in 2008, then I'll find a way to make do on my own until they officially show up, or I'll do without. Some people seem to act like there will be 4E police coming to their tables to make sure that everyone follows the rules in the books exactly word-for-word. That hasn't happened in my 3E/3.5E games, and somehow I doubt Wizards will suddenly come up with the funding to do it in 4E.</p><p></p><p>Basically what I'm saying is, the tone matters almost more than the message. And repeated negativity everywhere just makes me wonder why someone is choosing to hang out on a messageboard that is about a subject they're really not interested in. If we were to split the forums eventually to 3.xE and 4E forums, then we'd be looking for the 4E interested people to not go into the 3.xE forums and start flinging the negativity around about what's new in 4E and how it's sooooooo much better than 3.x. </p><p></p><p>Civility remains the watchword.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Dinkeldog, post: 4004724, member: 195"] (Set, this isn't directed at you by any means, I just wanted to respond to this topic.) I think the key is always to try to self-moderate your tone. The people that tend to annoy me will put in a comment like, "Just another reason to not go with 4E." That will spring the "hater" reflex in me, then I tend to discount everything else. People that instead say things like, "Well, I'm not sure why they would do that, it doesn't make much sense right now," spring the "reasonable skeptic" reflex in me. I don't mind reasonable skeptics, but hating gets annoying, especially when I'm looking for some discussion on what a change is and what it might be hinting at. I'll also admit that while I'm generally positive, there are some things that I wish made the 2008 cut--basically gnomes and druids with a side order of psionics. But if they're cut in 2008, then I'll find a way to make do on my own until they officially show up, or I'll do without. Some people seem to act like there will be 4E police coming to their tables to make sure that everyone follows the rules in the books exactly word-for-word. That hasn't happened in my 3E/3.5E games, and somehow I doubt Wizards will suddenly come up with the funding to do it in 4E. Basically what I'm saying is, the tone matters almost more than the message. And repeated negativity everywhere just makes me wonder why someone is choosing to hang out on a messageboard that is about a subject they're really not interested in. If we were to split the forums eventually to 3.xE and 4E forums, then we'd be looking for the 4E interested people to not go into the 3.xE forums and start flinging the negativity around about what's new in 4E and how it's sooooooo much better than 3.x. Civility remains the watchword. [/QUOTE]
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