Don Durito
Hero
Art is culture I don't really understand what the argument is.
In the past this sort of argument has not been about whether art affects culture but whether (or rather to what extent) cultural production and representation influences material conditions.
One reading of Marx was that the relationship of culture to material conditions flows one way from material conditions to culture. Now if you had pressed Marx he may have not necessarily stated as such directly, but it can be argued that it is implied.
Of course there has been a lot of push back on that with the argument often made over the twentieth century that art also influences material conditions.
Personally I think the latter is undeniable, but also these days vastly overstated. I tend to think the centre of gravity is way over on the material side, whereas a lot of modern commentary tends to act as if moving things around in the cultural sphere has much more influence in the material sphere than it does.
In the past this sort of argument has not been about whether art affects culture but whether (or rather to what extent) cultural production and representation influences material conditions.
One reading of Marx was that the relationship of culture to material conditions flows one way from material conditions to culture. Now if you had pressed Marx he may have not necessarily stated as such directly, but it can be argued that it is implied.
Of course there has been a lot of push back on that with the argument often made over the twentieth century that art also influences material conditions.
Personally I think the latter is undeniable, but also these days vastly overstated. I tend to think the centre of gravity is way over on the material side, whereas a lot of modern commentary tends to act as if moving things around in the cultural sphere has much more influence in the material sphere than it does.
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