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<blockquote data-quote="Quasqueton" data-source="post: 3757002" data-attributes="member: 3854">Wow! I have not questioned or doubted or argued against your personal experiences with any edition of the game. But your personal experiences are not necessarily the *written rules of the game*. (Mine aren't either.) The *facts* I'm referring to is in the OP -- quotes from the published rules.&quot;Revisionist history&quot;? Um, I quoted directly from the *book* of AD&amp;D1. I'm not revising anything -- I'm presenting it as it actually was written, even in context. If you doubt the veracity of the quotes, look them up yourself -- I gave the page numbers.You saidThinking this ignores the facts of what the books directly state. It's like saying, &quot;I think that the focus on combat and killing monsters is something that comes with 3E.&quot; Believing this means ignoring the facts of what was actually in the earlier-edition books.It was part of the written rules then, and taking evidence from many people who played at the time, it was also a part of the culture of AD&amp;D1 gaming. This fact does not invalidate your own personal experiences, but also your own personal experiences do not invalidate what the books actually said in print.There are some people (HellHound, for example) who don't use minis with D&amp;D3 -- does his experience mean using minis on a battlegrid is not part of the culture now?Quasqueton</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Quasqueton, post: 3757002, member: 3854"] Wow! I have not questioned or doubted or argued against your personal experiences with any edition of the game. But your personal experiences are not necessarily the *written rules of the game*. (Mine aren't either.) The *facts* I'm referring to is in the OP -- quotes from the published rules."Revisionist history"? Um, I quoted directly from the *book* of AD&D1. I'm not revising anything -- I'm presenting it as it actually was written, even in context. If you doubt the veracity of the quotes, look them up yourself -- I gave the page numbers. You saidThinking this ignores the facts of what the books directly state. It's like saying, "I think that the focus on combat and killing monsters is something that comes with 3E." Believing this means ignoring the facts of what was actually in the earlier-edition books. It was part of the written rules then, and taking evidence from many people who played at the time, it was also a part of the culture of AD&D1 gaming. This fact does not invalidate your own personal experiences, but also your own personal experiences do not invalidate what the books actually said in print. There are some people (HellHound, for example) who don't use minis with D&D3 -- does his experience mean using minis on a battlegrid is not part of the culture now? Quasqueton [/QUOTE]

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