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<blockquote data-quote="Remathilis" data-source="post: 8786955" data-attributes="member: 7635"><p>The reason why 4e martial rangers worked is because THEY TOOK ARCHERY AND DUAL WIELDING AWAY FROM ROGUES AND FIGHTERS! </p><p></p><p>4e made sure powers worked with only certain types of weapons, and the rogue only worked with crossbows and finesse blades, while fighters were sword and board and great weapons (they added a dual wield option for fighters later, iirc). Rangers powers only ever worked correctly with a bow or paired weapons, though later they got magical and pet options.</p><p></p><p>Now, if we wanted to bring the 4e martial ranger back, we'd have to limit the fighter and rogue's fighting styles and carve out the twf/archer niche for rangers. This could be done by both giving classes incentive to stay in their appropriate fighting style (such as sneak attack only working with finesse weapons and crossbows) and limiting options (only rangers get dual wield and archery fighting styles). But I suspect that would not be very popular.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Remathilis, post: 8786955, member: 7635"] The reason why 4e martial rangers worked is because THEY TOOK ARCHERY AND DUAL WIELDING AWAY FROM ROGUES AND FIGHTERS! 4e made sure powers worked with only certain types of weapons, and the rogue only worked with crossbows and finesse blades, while fighters were sword and board and great weapons (they added a dual wield option for fighters later, iirc). Rangers powers only ever worked correctly with a bow or paired weapons, though later they got magical and pet options. Now, if we wanted to bring the 4e martial ranger back, we'd have to limit the fighter and rogue's fighting styles and carve out the twf/archer niche for rangers. This could be done by both giving classes incentive to stay in their appropriate fighting style (such as sneak attack only working with finesse weapons and crossbows) and limiting options (only rangers get dual wield and archery fighting styles). But I suspect that would not be very popular. [/QUOTE]
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