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<blockquote data-quote="DEFCON 1" data-source="post: 8787514" data-attributes="member: 7006"><p>I've got no issue with Level Up... I think it's great that another option is out there for people who have a need to play 5E differently. But I also don't believe WotC needs to go out of their way to change <em>their</em> game beyond their design choices to try and placate those people who want to play 5E differently. There are so many ways a DM can put together a non-magical 5E game right now... both by using the WotC rules themselves, and also with all the different 3rd party stuff you can find on DMs Guild and hell... even here on EN World in just the message board itself... if they just do some work to make the game their own.</p><p></p><p>We hear complaint after complaint after complaint that D&D doesn't have a Warlord class. Well, I kid you not... there have probably been over a DOZEN different Warlords made just here on EN World alone. Full Warlord classes by various posters. Done so many times that we've had completely separate Warlord subforums made here just to house them all. Any number of those designs of which could be plopped down into someone's "non-magic" game right now if they only bothered to look.</p><p></p><p>But they don't look. They don't find all the work that others have already done for them, at least one of which would probably give them exactly what they wanted. Or if they DO look, and DO find these options... they don't want to bother putting in the time to either do their own pass to see if its balanced (if that matters to them), or at the very least try it out in their game one time to see how it plays (and then edit it later as need be.) Nope! They'd rather just get bent all out of shape that WotC isn't doing it for them.</p><p></p><p>It's not that hard as far as I'm concerned... if you want to run a game that is "low-magic", you can do that right now. If you want to run a game in Dark Sun, you can do that right now. If you want a Psion class in your game, you can have that right now. If you want a Warlord class in your game, you can have that right now. If you want orcs in your world to be unrepentantly evil, you can have that right now. All that stuff is possible and you can have the game the way to want it if you just put in the work yourself, rather than waiting for WotC to write it up for you and print it in one of their books instead.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="DEFCON 1, post: 8787514, member: 7006"] I've got no issue with Level Up... I think it's great that another option is out there for people who have a need to play 5E differently. But I also don't believe WotC needs to go out of their way to change [I]their[/I] game beyond their design choices to try and placate those people who want to play 5E differently. There are so many ways a DM can put together a non-magical 5E game right now... both by using the WotC rules themselves, and also with all the different 3rd party stuff you can find on DMs Guild and hell... even here on EN World in just the message board itself... if they just do some work to make the game their own. We hear complaint after complaint after complaint that D&D doesn't have a Warlord class. Well, I kid you not... there have probably been over a DOZEN different Warlords made just here on EN World alone. Full Warlord classes by various posters. Done so many times that we've had completely separate Warlord subforums made here just to house them all. Any number of those designs of which could be plopped down into someone's "non-magic" game right now if they only bothered to look. But they don't look. They don't find all the work that others have already done for them, at least one of which would probably give them exactly what they wanted. Or if they DO look, and DO find these options... they don't want to bother putting in the time to either do their own pass to see if its balanced (if that matters to them), or at the very least try it out in their game one time to see how it plays (and then edit it later as need be.) Nope! They'd rather just get bent all out of shape that WotC isn't doing it for them. It's not that hard as far as I'm concerned... if you want to run a game that is "low-magic", you can do that right now. If you want to run a game in Dark Sun, you can do that right now. If you want a Psion class in your game, you can have that right now. If you want a Warlord class in your game, you can have that right now. If you want orcs in your world to be unrepentantly evil, you can have that right now. All that stuff is possible and you can have the game the way to want it if you just put in the work yourself, rather than waiting for WotC to write it up for you and print it in one of their books instead. [/QUOTE]
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