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<blockquote data-quote="Hussar" data-source="post: 8790493" data-attributes="member: 22779"><p>Honestly? I think you’re building mountains out of molehills. Ok. It matters to you. Why should I care to be honest. You’ve made it abundantly clear that there can be no compromise here. It’s 100% non magical ranger or nothing. </p><p></p><p>Doesn’t matter to you that the non magical parts are identical to the magic parts. It’s a spell so it’s wrong. </p><p></p><p>I’d be sympathetic if the non magical ranger was actually doing something besides spells without being spells but you don’t want that. You want the ranger to have spells but don’t call them spells. </p><p></p><p>It’s difference without meaning. You friend an animal and it functions identically to the animal friendship spell except it can’t be dispelled. Which, frankly, will likely never happen anyway. </p><p></p><p>Why does the ranger get a free spell effect that is more powerful than what the caster gets? After all, the Druid’s animal friendship can be dispelled and all that. But ranger effects are just better? Why?</p><p></p><p>Like I said, if your ranger was doing things that weren’t cut and paste from spell descriptions then I’d buy what you’re saying. But it’s not. It’s literally exactly the same effects, just with a bit of different verbiage. </p><p></p><p>So not worth a new system.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Hussar, post: 8790493, member: 22779"] Honestly? I think you’re building mountains out of molehills. Ok. It matters to you. Why should I care to be honest. You’ve made it abundantly clear that there can be no compromise here. It’s 100% non magical ranger or nothing. Doesn’t matter to you that the non magical parts are identical to the magic parts. It’s a spell so it’s wrong. I’d be sympathetic if the non magical ranger was actually doing something besides spells without being spells but you don’t want that. You want the ranger to have spells but don’t call them spells. It’s difference without meaning. You friend an animal and it functions identically to the animal friendship spell except it can’t be dispelled. Which, frankly, will likely never happen anyway. Why does the ranger get a free spell effect that is more powerful than what the caster gets? After all, the Druid’s animal friendship can be dispelled and all that. But ranger effects are just better? Why? Like I said, if your ranger was doing things that weren’t cut and paste from spell descriptions then I’d buy what you’re saying. But it’s not. It’s literally exactly the same effects, just with a bit of different verbiage. So not worth a new system. [/QUOTE]
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