Menu
News
All News
Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
Pathfinder
Starfinder
Warhammer
2d20 System
Year Zero Engine
Industry News
Reviews
Dragon Reflections
Columns
Weekly Digests
Weekly News Digest
Freebies, Sales & Bundles
RPG Print News
RPG Crowdfunding News
Game Content
ENterplanetary DimENsions
Mythological Figures
Opinion
Worlds of Design
Peregrine's Next
RPG Evolution
Other Columns
From the Freelancing Frontline
Monster ENcyclopedia
WotC/TSR Alumni Look Back
4 Hours w/RSD (Ryan Dancey)
The Road to 3E (Jonathan Tweet)
Greenwood's Realms (Ed Greenwood)
Drawmij's TSR (Jim Ward)
Community
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Resources
Wiki
Pages
Latest activity
Media
New media
New comments
Search media
Downloads
Latest reviews
Search resources
EN Publishing
Store
EN5ider
Adventures in ZEITGEIST
Awfully Cheerful Engine
What's OLD is NEW
Judge Dredd & The Worlds Of 2000AD
War of the Burning Sky
Level Up: Advanced 5E
Events & Releases
Upcoming Events
Private Events
Featured Events
Socials!
Twitch
YouTube
Facebook (EN Publishing)
Facebook (EN World)
Twitter
Instagram
TikTok
Podcast
Features
Top 5 RPGs Compiled Charts 2004-Present
Adventure Game Industry Market Research Summary (RPGs) V1.0
Ryan Dancey: Acquiring TSR
Q&A With Gary Gygax
D&D Rules FAQs
TSR, WotC, & Paizo: A Comparative History
D&D Pronunciation Guide
Million Dollar TTRPG Kickstarters
Tabletop RPG Podcast Hall of Fame
Eric Noah's Unofficial D&D 3rd Edition News
D&D in the Mainstream
D&D & RPG History
About Morrus
Log in
Register
What's new
Search
Search
Search titles only
By:
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Menu
Log in
Register
Install the app
Install
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*Dungeons & Dragons
One D&D Expert Classes Playtest Document Is Live
JavaScript is disabled. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding.
You are using an out of date browser. It may not display this or other websites correctly.
You should upgrade or use an
alternative browser
.
Reply to thread
Message
<blockquote data-quote="Faolyn" data-source="post: 8791275" data-attributes="member: 6915329"><p>Well, the DMG says it's DC 20, which is <em>hardly </em>impossible. And an obvious trail only subtracts 5 from the DC, which means that a non-obvious trail is still only DC 20. A 1D&D ranger could get expertise in Survival at 1st level, meaning even just starting out, that ranger could get a +6 or +7 to their Survival roll, which means that--well, someone who's better at the math than I am can tell you exact percentages, but I'd say that a 1st level o5e ranger would succeed on a Survival roll for tracking the majority of time (and would also learn more information through tracking than a non-ranger would). And that's without any sort of magical aid--or without any special ranger abilities to make it easier, which could be added without making a sub-system. "X times per day, the ranger can get advantage on Survival checks made to track" or "X times per day, rangers can track creatures that fly or are protected by a <em>pass without trace </em>or similar magic without having any penalties to their Survival check."</p><p></p><p>Also, I have no idea what sort of spells you're expecting a ranger would use to help them track. <em>Guidance</em>, maybe, but that's been nerfed to 1/rest/target in 1D&D, and that's only going to average a +2 to that roll anyway. They don't even get <em>locate creature </em>until 14th level (and bards, clerics, druids, paladins, and wizards get it too--and except for the paladin, they all get it a <em>lot </em>earlier as well). And heck, they don't get <em>faerie fire, see invisibility, </em>or <em>mind spike </em>at all, and those spells actually help you find people!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Faolyn, post: 8791275, member: 6915329"] Well, the DMG says it's DC 20, which is [I]hardly [/I]impossible. And an obvious trail only subtracts 5 from the DC, which means that a non-obvious trail is still only DC 20. A 1D&D ranger could get expertise in Survival at 1st level, meaning even just starting out, that ranger could get a +6 or +7 to their Survival roll, which means that--well, someone who's better at the math than I am can tell you exact percentages, but I'd say that a 1st level o5e ranger would succeed on a Survival roll for tracking the majority of time (and would also learn more information through tracking than a non-ranger would). And that's without any sort of magical aid--or without any special ranger abilities to make it easier, which could be added without making a sub-system. "X times per day, the ranger can get advantage on Survival checks made to track" or "X times per day, rangers can track creatures that fly or are protected by a [I]pass without trace [/I]or similar magic without having any penalties to their Survival check." Also, I have no idea what sort of spells you're expecting a ranger would use to help them track. [I]Guidance[/I], maybe, but that's been nerfed to 1/rest/target in 1D&D, and that's only going to average a +2 to that roll anyway. They don't even get [I]locate creature [/I]until 14th level (and bards, clerics, druids, paladins, and wizards get it too--and except for the paladin, they all get it a [I]lot [/I]earlier as well). And heck, they don't get [I]faerie fire, see invisibility, [/I]or [I]mind spike [/I]at all, and those spells actually help you find people! [/QUOTE]
Insert quotes…
Verification
Post reply
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*Dungeons & Dragons
One D&D Expert Classes Playtest Document Is Live
Top