Online galleries for the preview books?

[Derren]

I think it looks great. I also think it's more interesting than the bronze dragon, too.

More interesting? To say that you must know something about their society/behaviour. Care to share this with us?

I think the face of the Adamantine dragon is simply to flat. It looks more like tha snout of a boar than that of a dragon. And the tip of the tail is also too flat as if a titan stepped on it.

 

[Desdichado]

More interesting? To say that you must know something about their society/behaviour. Care to share this with us?

No I don't. I just have to think that an adamantine dragon is more interesting an idea than a bronze dragon. Which I do.

Besides, how much about society and behavior do you get from the Monster Manual about bronze dragons? Uh, yeah... none. Without Draconomicon we'd have nuttin'. And it's not like the Draconomicon material really treads incredibly new and interesting ground either.

 

[Derren]

No I don't. I just have to think that an adamantine dragon is more interesting an idea than a bronze dragon. Which I do.

And why? Because of the name?
You know nothing about adamantine dragons so how can you claim that they will be more interesting than bronze dragons?

 

[Skade]

And why? Because of the name?
You know nothing about adamantine dragons so how can you claim that they will be more interesting than bronze dragons?

Interest is subjective. Perhaps he enjoys contemplating the metaphysical purpose of adamantine, and the dragons that represent it. Perhaps he simply finds bronze an irrelevant metal for his timeline, referring to it in in terms of ages of technological development. In the end, it comes down to this, he finds it interesting, more than bronze. Not sure any challenge to that can be made.

 

[DaveyJones]

Interest is subjective. Perhaps he enjoys contemplating the metaphysical purpose of adamantine, and the dragons that represent it. Perhaps he simply finds bronze an irrelevant metal for his timeline, referring to it in in terms of ages of technological development. In the end, it comes down to this, he finds it interesting, more than bronze. Not sure any challenge to that can be made.

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i think they are about to cut the interest rates again mang.

 

[Cadfan]

Adamantine implies more to me than does bronze. If I were designing an "adamantine dragon" I'd give its scales at least some of the properties of adamantine. I'd want to make a heavy, somewhat slow dragon that hits harder than other comparable dragons.

If I were making a bronze dragon, I'd... nuts. What's cool and evocative about bronze? Its... a color, and failure to fill the color wheel with dragons will cause the universe to implode? Its an old crappy metal used for armor by cultures that didn't know how to make steel?

I'd personally kill off chromatic dragons entirely, and make themed dragons based on other things. But even in my vision of D&D dragons, there could be room for adamantine dragons.

There might be room in my visions for dragons who are the color of bronze, perhaps. But I'd probably take off their wings, give them rattlesnake coloration, give them venom, stick them in the desert, and give them the blue dragon's burrowing tricks. I'm sure the PCs would enjoy that.

 

[WhimsyTheFae]

I'd personally kill off chromatic dragons entirely, and make themed dragons based on other things. But even in my vision of D&D dragons, there could be room for adamantine dragons.

Of course there's room for adamantine in your vision...you killed off chromatics, not metallics.

 

[Desdichado]

And why? Because of the name?
You know nothing about adamantine dragons so how can you claim that they will be more interesting than bronze dragons?

At least half of it is because they're new and bronze dragons haven't ever been interesting to me from way back in the monster lists of B/X D&D and the 1e MM.

You're right; I don't know much about adamantine dragons yet. But I know enough about bronze dragons to know that anything new is automatically more interesting to me than they are.

Frankly, I find them most interesting just because they purposefully break out of the 5 chromatic vs. 5 metallic paradigm, which I've never liked. Even if that's all that they ever do, that's automatically more interesting to me.

Also, I like the art. I like the 'snapping turtle' jaw-line too. Different. Unusual. Paradigm-shifting.

All things I find interesting.

 

[Derren]

Frankly, I find them most interesting just because they purposefully break out of the 5 chromatic vs. 5 metallic paradigm, which I've never liked.

There you are mistaken. There will still be only 5 metallic dragons. Bronze and Brass dragons will come back later in a splashbook or MM2

 

[Desdichado]

There you are mistaken. There will still be only 5 metallic dragons. Bronze and Brass dragons will come back later in a splashbook or MM2

No, I'm not mistaken about how interesting I've found metallic dragons.

And you're clearly wrong with your assertion that there will still be only 5 metallic dragons; we wouldn't be having this discussion if there wasn't a preview of an adamantine dragon. Have you even read the Worlds & Monsters preview book? The color-coded alignment dragons are quite explicitly said to be---if not out, then at least heavily de-emphasized.