Only ten articles in Dragon this month?

I have no idea what is going on over there, but I wish they figure it out and keep the game alive. Is this a Wizards/ Hasbro thing with the ecomomy not in full swing and profit margins and such? It would be sad if that was the only case for withering. Was there this skepticism when TSR was in trouble and Wizards bought them. I remember some arguements about a new edition causing the end of the world.

Like I said, I hope they figure it out.

I'm sure the economy has something to do with it. Let's face it, very few industries are not affected by it. Add to that the fact that they do pay not only for the articles, but pay by the word and there's a fairly easy incentive to cut down on the articles particularly if their profits are down. While I think that many aspects of 4th Ed. have been a pretty big success, I do think that the DDI subscription with its included access to all of the rules and crunch have almost certainly cut into the book sales, which naturally cut into the overall profits. On top of that, they have essentially had to pay to have the VTT built twice, and its still not in full release.

The trick now is to figure out how to maximize the profit potential of DDi. Getting the CB back up to speed (i.e. to where the old CB was at) and getting a functional set of Adventure Tools will, in my opinion, likely give them the biggest bang for the buck in the short term. I'm not certain though that adding articles, or even keeping up with the old amount, will result in more sales. At that point they have to evaluate how many sales they'll lose through reduced article counts.

In sum, I don't necessarily think the sky is falling; however, I do agree that things are not going as well as we would like at WotC (and I'm not just talking about management, but sales as well).
 

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Yeah but there was a time we used to get quality and quantity. :(

Which could mean this is an equilibrium thing.

They can only budget so much time/money towards the magazines- so they end up with high quantity, lapsing quality, or they reduce the quantity and increase the quality.

I grabbed a random copy of Dragon from back in the 2e era... 120 pages- of which roughly 38.5 pages were ads.

That leaves us with 81.5 pages left.

2 of those pages were the contents 1 was letters to the editor... 78.5

Then about 2.5 pages of forums.. (Yep back in the day you had to pay money to let everyone know how fast the sky was falling! And it took a whole month for people to call you a grognard!)

76 pages left... Then there's a page just announcing TSR's insane release schedule... 75 pages...

Those 75 pages are devoted to features, book reviews, news, fiction, sage advice, and some stuff about other TSR products (which I guess fall under features depending on your PoV...)

All in all my point being I think they're just trying to get to a manageable level of content per month. I think they were over producing... Which was cool, and I can understand if people are disappointed by less page content...

Myself? I'm ok with it if they continue and improve the quality of those articles.

A lot of the stuff I was paying for in my paper magazine is free on the site. My money now goes to things that actually improve my game experience... An ever increasing pool of digital content for one... And yeah- I believe the CB and MB are just going to get better.

So I'm still ok with my subscription dollars. :)

Shrug.
 

This makes more sence, thanks for finding an old magazine. There is still something about holding a magazine in your hands, to me at least.

Maybe they were putting out too much with the 2 magazines and online programs. I wonder if in today's dollars it would cost about the same.
 

I do think that the DDI subscription with its included access to all of the rules and crunch have almost certainly cut into the book sales, which naturally cut into the overall profits.

Without knowing exactly how much DDI brings in relative to either previous edition or early book sales it's impossible to say that. DDI could be an awesome cash cow and a chance to finally get off the power creep treadmill that was in 3e and early parts of this edition. They can make enough on DDI and save a ton on not paying distribution costs and also not worry about stores shipping back unsold copies.
 

Which could mean this is an equilibrium thing.

They can only budget so much time/money towards the magazines- so they end up with high quantity, lapsing quality, or they reduce the quantity and increase the quality.

I grabbed a random copy of Dragon from back in the 2e era... 120 pages- of which roughly 38.5 pages were ads.

That leaves us with 81.5 pages left.

2 of those pages were the contents 1 was letters to the editor... 78.5

Then about 2.5 pages of forums.. (Yep back in the day you had to pay money to let everyone know how fast the sky was falling! And it took a whole month for people to call you a grognard!)

76 pages left... Then there's a page just announcing TSR's insane release schedule... 75 pages...

Those 75 pages are devoted to features, book reviews, news, fiction, sage advice, and some stuff about other TSR products (which I guess fall under features depending on your PoV...)

All in all my point being I think they're just trying to get to a manageable level of content per month. I think they were over producing... Which was cool, and I can understand if people are disappointed by less page content...

Myself? I'm ok with it if they continue and improve the quality of those articles.

A lot of the stuff I was paying for in my paper magazine is free on the site. My money now goes to things that actually improve my game experience... An ever increasing pool of digital content for one... And yeah- I believe the CB and MB are just going to get better.

So I'm still ok with my subscription dollars. :)

Shrug.

Dragon yes. Actually, I think the stuff in 4e Dragon is much better as it is now put into the CB which means I'm far more likely to use than the stuff from the 3e days, even when I did find something I liked, unless I wrote down or tabbed it I always forgot.

Now Dungeon? That's another story. Paizo rocks when it comes to adventures. There was little if any "delves" and there was tons (all?) of original maps. I mean I pay more to Paizo each month than DDI for the AP's they produce and then convert to 4e as its far better than anything WotC puts out.
 

My subscription ends this month - I am just fed up with DDI. I have been buying Dragon for over 15 years but I have finally given up on it. I turned off my auto-renew last night.

They claim they have all this material since the books were canceled...well where is it? They can't even give us decent previews anymore.

How hard is it to yank a few powers or feats out of HoS to show us as a preview?

The CB continues to still not support House Rules so it is useless to my campaigns. I will continue to use the "classic" CB.

I never use Dungeon.

Nothing this month in Dragons interests me in the slightest with such few articles now.

I see no improvement in DDI at all. :erm:
 

Always look on the bright side of life, na na, na na

Well, in case you don't feel there is enough content, keep in mind that the CB terms of use and license agreement is now larger then the entire contents of the Jan and Feb Dragon magazines.
Hows that for value!
 

My DDI sub expires tomorrow and I will not be renewing until I see significant improvement in the quality and quantity of magazine content, a monster builder that works, and a character builder that doesn't crash frequently. I really hope that WotC can get their act together soon. If they don't, I fear so many subscribers will leave DDI that it will be very hard for them to recover financially. I'm certain Hasbro won't look too kindly at rapidly decreasing subscriber numbers. They need to pull out of this nosedive soon.
 
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Dragon yes. Actually, I think the stuff in 4e Dragon is much better as it is now put into the CB which means I'm far more likely to use than the stuff from the 3e days, even when I did find something I liked, unless I wrote down or tabbed it I always forgot.

Now Dungeon? That's another story. Paizo rocks when it comes to adventures. There was little if any "delves" and there was tons (all?) of original maps. I mean I pay more to Paizo each month than DDI for the AP's they produce and then convert to 4e as its far better than anything WotC puts out.

I've mentioned before I really like the delves- I sprinkle them throughout the campaign world.

As for adventures... eh personally I hardly ever use the big ones. Getting ready to use a long adventure I didn't write feels like as much work (if not more) then just writing one.

I also like the other stuff in Dungeon... Like the places, and most recent organizations and NPCs.

I'd rather have more of that instead of more big adventures in a month personally.
 

Without knowing exactly how much DDI brings in relative to either previous edition or early book sales it's impossible to say that. DDI could be an awesome cash cow and a chance to finally get off the power creep treadmill that was in 3e and early parts of this edition. They can make enough on DDI and save a ton on not paying distribution costs and also not worry about stores shipping back unsold copies.

I should clarify. In the long run, I think that you are right. Going with a digital distribution format is quite likely to be more profitable than going with book sales. However, I think that in the short term, its quite likely that WotC has been struggling a bit in terms of revenue given the almost certain decrease in book sales. After all, they are still printing and distributing books, but they are not making as much money off of them as they used to. So, in the short term, they are contracting their costs across the board while they try to explore possibilities for the most potential profit. While I've never been a high ranking executive in a business, my guess is that completely shifting your business model (which in many respects is what WotC is doing) is likely neither cheap nor easy.

Obviously, all of this is also speculation on my part as I do not have access to WotC's finances.
 

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