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A couple of questions about Hiritus' finances

First, a question about what it means in the SRD (since I don't have access to the books right now) about what it means to "call a special mount." Is that similar to 'calling' an animal companion? (ie, does it cost anything?) Also, can Hiritus communicate with it? Empathically, or by speaking to it?

Secondly, just to let folks know, Hiritus will not be able to purchase a compound bow until he once again has the money and the opportunity to do so; for now, depending on the answer to the first question, either Hiritus is tapped out, or he has (with financial help from Fendric) enough money to purchase breastplate armor, due to Fendric's influence. At that time, he will seek out Raven's help.
 

Oliver can chip in for Hirtius' bow. And will gladly do so. Well, not glady, he'll grumble quite a bit, but he'd rather Hirtius have the bow than not.
 

I didn't "charge" Hiritus for the horse initially -- was kind of iffy on the issue myself, which is why there was no in-game mention (for one thing, he wasn't 5th level at the OOC-time the mount was purchased)... How about the stabler threw in the horse for free on the condition that Hiritus bought a riding saddle and studded leather barding (already taken into account), given that the stabler was of the impression that the horse "was rubbish," or something... You get the idea, and can fill in the rest to the extent it matters to you.

Looking at the SRD, it seems like the official description of the special mount is what I'd classify as doofy: "Once per day, as a full-round action, a paladin may magically call her mount from the celestial realms in which it resides. This ability is the equivalent of a spell of a level equal to one-third the paladin’s level. The mount immediately appears adjacent to the paladin and remains for 2 hours per paladin level; it may be dismissed at any time as a free action."

Now, I'm all for the effect they're trying to achieve (the whole Gandalf/Shadowfax thing where you call for your horse and hey, there it is), but IMO the specifics and specifity are, at the very least, out of sync with the flavor of this game. I mean, I just can't see Hiritus coming up and being like "hey guys, look what I can do!" and making a horse apper adjacent to him. When Aerda does it, it's believable, but it's a much bigger leap when Hiritus (and the Paladin in general) has demonstrated no magical affinity save for lay on hands...

Anyway, how does ruling it such that Hiritus can Call and Dismiss Justice once (each) per day sound? Call meaning the horse just sort of shows up, Dismiss meaning he just sort of goes away... You know, in a literary fashion? It creates some general ambiguities when used in combat, odd environments, or other miscellaneous situations, but these can be resolved when they come up, if they ever come up...

Sound good? Bad? Suggestions?
 

The way I've allways seen it played was that the palladin kinda "bonds" with a mount, imbuing it with the powers given to him by his God, making the horse a special mount, more intelligent, you know, kinda like the familiars and animal companions. The horse still is a horse, and needs to be taken care of, and when you're in a dungeon, well, tough luck. I can't see the horse popping out of nowhere and then disappearing in level 4 of the Temple of Very Bad Things. The shadowfax thingie is quite nice, though, that seems like a very good option. Like Zorro in plate-mail.
 

Thanks - I'm really okay with either interpretation (yours/SRD and/or Dr. Zombie's) - I imagine that under your interpretation, GP, that when Hiritus was done riding for ten hours, Justice would stop, Hiritus would just know to dismount, and then Justice would wander away, to reappear at dawn or whenever they set out.

Or, under Dr. Z's, Hiritus has to maintain a commitment to this horse, come hell or highwater, and like he says, if we're in level 4 of the Temple of Very Bad Things, Justice wouldn't appear or disappear. In fact, Justice would have gotten them to the door, then hung out to "supervise" the other horses, help to protect them from wild animals, keep them from needing to be tied up, thus eating a perfect circle into the grass for the duration of the crawl, etc. That works for me, too, and in fact, it would help establish commonality with the other "permanent" horses such as Vesper, which I like.

As for setting, and plausibility, I would tend to play it like I did this time: To the untrained observer, the horse would come walking from somewhere "off camera." Sort of mystical, fade in, fade out-ish, like Zorro, but holier. :) Not -boom! flash! horse!- like I envision Aerda's summoning (which, by the way, isn't mount a cantrip?). Anyway, I think this works for the flavor of the game and the plot so far, both.

Either way, I've never heard of a paladin having to pay for the horse he called in any way, and the material from everybody seems to agree. And in any case, Hiritus shelled out for the military saddle, tack, studded leather barding and saddlebags regardless - believe it.

Which leaves him in range (with the turn in of the recruitment armor, and Fendric's additional help) to upgrade to proper paladin armor. Studded leather's for rookies, and rogues. :)

So off I go to get that worked out...

Thanks, y'all. I appreciate the help.
 

If you're okay with, I personally prefer DrZ's interpretation as well... I just didn't want to suggest a houserule that takes away mechanical advantages afforded by the SRD. If you want to use it, it's fair to say the Call/Dismiss options are available (I do like their flavor), and let you decide when it is or isn't reasonable... Personally, so long as the horse is able to disappear from sight and travel freely (so not just down a hallway that leads to a brick wall, or something), I'm okay with time and terrain not being an issue. Likewise, reappearing on a different side of a mountain range or even a different continent is fine by me, but inside of a locked-down fortress, less so. Pelor works in mysterious ways, and while he may just be zapping that horse from place to place, he doesn't want it to be the only possible explanation. :)
 


YAY. I made a contribution to the team. hooray.

Folks, as you've noticed my posting rate has dropped a bit. That doesn't mean I'm not interrested anymore, just that work is hectic (as allways). I'm still reading the posts, no worries.

Cheers.
 

I just put down a couple of games I was running. Mercy killings really.

I thought that it wouldn't be at all inappropriate to pop in here and give GP big props for being on of the finest PbP DMs around. It takes a really cracker-jack DM to run PbP and keep it going. I'm really enjoying this game and am glad to be in it. Thanks GP. And thanks to all the other players whose dedication also make this possible.

*sniff* I love you guys!
 

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