OOC - [Epic] - Scions of the Endless Falls - Full

[Brother Shatterstone]

Edit: Found. (Complete Divine pg. 46)

Err... I mean Defenders of the Faith pg. 58 right?

 

[Wrahn]

Yeah since Isida doesn't have the Complete Divine, DotF is the source I used.

 

[Brother Shatterstone]

Yeah since Isida doesn't have the Complete Divine, DotF is the source I used.

Cool. Did you get my email by chance? It was the old address I had from the days of "Brave New Planes" so it might have been out of date.

 

[Cathoi]

It looks as if you gents are lacking seriously in healing, so I was poring over the idea of an Adu'ja (from Dragon #317) Druid/Risen Martyr. It/he once considered itself a caretaker of sorts for the Endless Falls, but was annihilated almost utterly when your gods brought about the Wellsprings destruction. My characters purpose as a Risen Martyr, as far as he sees it, is to act as shepard and protector to any who have been touched by the Endless Falls. The Adu'ja believes it was sent back from paradise for this purpose specifically.
Regardless of whether or not it actually is sent from the heavens to right the wrong is of no consequense to my character, as my character is more then a little barmy. Now maybe this is from "growing" too long under the Endless Falls, maybe it's because the Adu'ja spent nearly the entirety of its own existence wandering in dreamscapes. The dreams of Gaurdinial Exemplars too be exact. It's quite possible that the Adu'ja's derrangement comes from the crucible of energy that broke the Falls themselves. However should the Adu'ja be alerted to the fact that he/it is really no more then a cosmic mistake...it would probably proove fatal for the newly Risen Martyr. His lightly be played insanities will be a Messiah Complex and a slight paranoia of flame. Level selection will probably be druid 20/Sentinel of Bharri 7/Risen Martyr 1, and the Adu'ja ECL of 2. I also plan on taking vow of poverty and spells from Complete Divine, if you allow them.

*Edited for clarity

 

[gabrion]

So I'm putting together a character for you to review and this is what I have come up with so far.

Thri Keen (non-psionic)
Monk 1/Cleric 6/Sacred Fist 10/Cleric 6/Kensai 4

I need to know it this basic build will work before I spend too much time with stats. If I get a green light I can throw him together (lol...as if that works at this level). Thanks.

 

[Rikandur Azebol]

I should probably take this opportunity to point out Rahveon is a Holy Liberator. He is not a paladin, but he spent some 50 years wandering the world, righting wrongs. He is not bound by a hard set of ethics like a paladin so he is willing to stomach using some of you for the greater good, but if someone goes off on a psychotic killing spree the blood of the innocent will be avenged. Rahveon's sword has earned it's name.

This is not a condemnation on anyone, just a simple warning. Isida has asked us to play nice so if you feel the urge to murder some innocent person, then make sure Rahveon never finds out about it.

To waste Sindol's time in killing meaningless sheep ? He isn't demon to be that whimsy. But he might not like Rhaveon, just feelings of person who dislike nosy guys.

Besides, my elf is a hunter of sorts, and those who pose no challenge aren't worth his time. So, innocent bystanders who keep low profile and don't attack my Char are perfectly safe from his attention.

Cathoi, incredible concept ! Wonder what opinion would Your PC have about mylef ?

Just to be a nice guy Rikandur, you vastly overpriced your bow of ruin.

Math for you:
+7 mace of ruin (1,000,312gp) - +7 enhancement bonus (980,000gp) - masterwork mace (312gp) = ruin ability (20,000gp).
+1 collision, distance, sonic burst, vile weapon is a +1 weapon with +6 in special abilities (which is priced differently from a +7 epic weapon). Your bow costs 98,000gp (+1 weapon w/+6 in special abilities) + 1,000gp (+6 mighty masterwork composite longbow) + 20,000gp (ruin ability) = 119,000gp.

Thus you save 1,001,000gp - 119,000gp = 882,000gp. Don't spend it all in one place now, ya hear?

Also the ruin ability let's you critical hit objects and constructs, however that doesn't include undead. Although ignoring all DR is still a nice bonus.

I apologise, Ferrix. Overlooked this post earlier. Yep,You are right ... Sindol can "shot down" andamantite castle !

Um, could You advice me on other matter ? I'm going to not give up Cauchemar Nightmare Steed so easily, and I need some advice about pricing of Figurine of Wondrous Power that would do the trick.
In similiar way to Wyrm Rod, but without character limitation.
My first thought is "X 20" base price of Obsidian Steed that would give 570,000 gp. Isn't it too low/too much ?

 

[Wrahn]

I also plan on taking vow of poverty and spells from Complete Divine, if you allow them.

A few things here, if I remember correctly, Isida has previously disallowed Vow of Poverty. This is actually the only sane thing to do, because there is no epic progression for it and expanding it out (I have seen people try) does not adquetely adjust for Epic power. Second she doesn't have the Complete Divine, so those spells are out, but as I recall a lot of those spells are just reprints from older sources, so if you have defends of the faith and the like you may want to check there.

Lastly as a side note, Isida has previously allowed alternate rules from the Unearthed Arcana which allow you to buy off level adjustment with experience points. Others can explain it better than I (since I don't have the book), but with the few extra experience that Isida gave us, you can buy off one of your level adjusts.



BS,

I sent you a reply.

To waste Sindol's time in killing meaningless sheep ? He isn't demon to be that whimsy. But he might not like Rhaveon, just feelings of person who dislike nosy guys.

Are you making fun of Rahveon's trunk?

 

[Rikandur Azebol]

Nope Wrahn, I like elephants.

But paladin-type guys are, from fiction and many players that I had misfortune to DM/play with the ones who almost constantly feel self justified to walk into someone with shoes first, and when he didn't listen with axe. "Only evil don't listen to reason, and I slay evil."

Example ? Sailors harrasing barmaids, including those new to the proffesion, right ? Without paladin intervention all is as it was yesterday, maybe fev people get bruised if bar fight start.
Paladin walks in and tells them what they have to do. They tell him where he can put his words, or completly ignore the madman. In ensuring bar fight, knives go to work ... and results in catastrophe. Did good intent of paladin mean something to people he killed ? I doubt so.Did it helped harassed young barmaid ? No, she was probably fired thanks to knight in shining armor who moved his three letters forward.

I have personal grudge against such behaviors, and that's why I alvays watch with suspicion paladin-type guys. Never the less sometimes they get what they ask for.

 

[Brother Shatterstone]

Lastly as a side note, Isida has previously allowed alternate rules from the Unearthed Arcana which allow you to buy off level adjustment with experience points. Others can explain it better than I (since I don't have the book), but with the few extra experience that Isida gave us, you can buy off one of your level adjusts.

Cool... I doubt it will help with my Massive ECL. (How many XP did we get? Enough to play around with anything "cool" or what not?

Here are the rules you where talking about: Reducing Level Adjustments

BS, I sent you a reply.

Thank you, and I sent you one more...

I have personal grudge against such behaviors, and that's why I alvays watch with suspicion paladin-type guys. Never the less sometimes they get what they ask for.

The Holy Liberator has no such rules for your example... but I imagine we'll be eyeing each other suspiciously anyhow.

 

[Rikandur Azebol]

Sindol doesn't eye someone suspiciously. He was too long in war to retain "civilian" CE creatures spirit. He expects everybody to be hostile, since he is used to hostility. And is bored with killing. Even CE critters could be bored with their "fun".

So, who Your paladin would be Brother Shatterstone ?

One more thing ! Isida, I apologise for constant nagging.
I know that I'm obnoxious to the extreme ... , but can I have Cauchemar Nightmare Statuette, working similiar to Wyrm Rod, for 570,000 gp ? I took base price for Obsidian Steed and multipled it by 20 ... and Ferrix did explained to me why I overpriced Sindol's bow. Wich leaves me with extra cash, if You permits. If not, there is no problem I will just have to move Sindol's three letters in search of some treasure.