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<blockquote data-quote="Hussar" data-source="post: 5754252" data-attributes="member: 22779"><p>I get what you're saying JC and by and large I agree. Although, I have to admit, the whole, "The DM's fun comes first" thing does set my teeth on edge. I guess because IME, so many DM's change that statement slightly to be "<strong><u>Only </u></strong> the DM's fun comes first."</p><p></p><p>That's where I tend to jump off the train. There are times when I do think it's worth it for DM's to back off and let the players have whatever it is that they want. Not always and there's certainly no hard and fast rules here. Sometimes being the key. </p><p></p><p>Yeah, you might not like it (the non-specific you here, not you JC), whatever "it" is, but, often I've found that trusting the players results in more interesting games. Again, not always. Just because the player came up with the idea doesn't make it great any more than just because the DM did. But, I've found that for me, relaxing the grip on the reins has allowed the players to have a much more profound impact on the game and made the game better for everyone.</p><p></p><p>Certainly taking Pilgrim's POV would not fly at my table. Heck, I've got enough competition for the DM's chair without being dictatorial about it. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin :D" data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Hussar, post: 5754252, member: 22779"] I get what you're saying JC and by and large I agree. Although, I have to admit, the whole, "The DM's fun comes first" thing does set my teeth on edge. I guess because IME, so many DM's change that statement slightly to be "[B][U]Only [/U][/B] the DM's fun comes first." That's where I tend to jump off the train. There are times when I do think it's worth it for DM's to back off and let the players have whatever it is that they want. Not always and there's certainly no hard and fast rules here. Sometimes being the key. Yeah, you might not like it (the non-specific you here, not you JC), whatever "it" is, but, often I've found that trusting the players results in more interesting games. Again, not always. Just because the player came up with the idea doesn't make it great any more than just because the DM did. But, I've found that for me, relaxing the grip on the reins has allowed the players to have a much more profound impact on the game and made the game better for everyone. Certainly taking Pilgrim's POV would not fly at my table. Heck, I've got enough competition for the DM's chair without being dictatorial about it. :D [/QUOTE]
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