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Message: <blockquote data-quote="TheAuldGrump" data-source="post: 5754455" data-attributes="member: 6957">Heh - in my examples where I used the term 'Subplots' - that is exactly what they are. A mechanism for using back story in a game. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> This is inherent in Spycraft, and gets used about once very other session or so.I make up the specific details, choose when it drops on the PCs, etc.. Essentially the players sink plot hooks into their characters for me to use at my leisure.I had one player who hated Subplots, he felt like it was painting a big bull's eye on the top of his head. Meanwhile the other player were having a blast with them. I told him that they were optional, that he didn't need to take one, but he just wouldn't stop complaining.It actually got to the point where I was thinking about dropping him from the campaign. I had just about made up my mid to do so when I got an e-mail from him, apologizing, and asking for his Subplots back. I gather that the other players had talked to him about it. So, I tried giving him his Subplots back. I have never, in my life, seen a player change that much, in so short a time. Once he realized that a Subplot wasn't a death sentence, that they could actually be completed.... He has become the biggest fan of Subplots in the games, and uses them in his own games. He is one of my best players, and is very good at weaseling around a plotline, and a good tactician to boot.Hell, I have a Subplot in his game - I play an recovering alcoholic ex-Mountie that has ties to the courts of the fey.... My Subplot came up in a scenario where the Winter Court had kidnapped a hockey team that had supposedly been killed in a plane crash. We found out about it when the fey came back and stole a Zamboni.... (He now runs a comedic game, and a very good one.)He is also the fellow who lost his players to my game, joined my game, then regained his players for his game, with me as one of the players. What I like to call a win-win-win scenario. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> He doesn't run his campaign nearly often enough. Comedy is hard! He is much better at it than I am.His turn around has made me a lot more tolerant, I would have lost a great player if I had given him the boot while he was a bad player. Talking helps, and in this case I wasn't even the one doing the talking.The Auld Grump</blockquote>

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