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<blockquote data-quote="pemerton" data-source="post: 5754565" data-attributes="member: 42582">Pilgrim's comment relates to GM authority. Your example doesn't, because your example is not an example of a GM exercising or not exercising authority in response to player wants, nor is it an example of a possible shifting of authority from GM to player. It is an example of a group already having agreed upon a set of PC build and action resolution rules (&quot;core PHB&quot;) and then a player wanting to unilaterally change/break those rules (&quot;I want my 1st level PC to be able to fly&quot;).From the fact that, in your scenario, the player doesn't get what s/he wants - that is, the group sticks to its decision to play a core PHB game - nothing at all follows, that I can see, about the proper, or even the conceivable, limits upon GM authority.It's not the GM's decision. If the group has decided to play a core PHB game, then the GM does not have to make any decision about whether or not a 1st level PC can fly. The matter has already been settled by the group agreeing to certain PC build and action resolution rules (namely, core PHB).I assume that your opinion is that the GM has the unilateral power to overturn that group agreement, but your example of a PC being unable to fly doesn't give me any reason to think that you're right in general about the unilateral power a GM does or should have.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="pemerton, post: 5754565, member: 42582"] Pilgrim's comment relates to GM authority. Your example doesn't, because your example is not an example of a GM exercising or not exercising authority in response to player wants, nor is it an example of a possible shifting of authority from GM to player. It is an example of a group already having agreed upon a set of PC build and action resolution rules ("core PHB") and then a player wanting to unilaterally change/break those rules ("I want my 1st level PC to be able to fly"). From the fact that, in your scenario, the player doesn't get what s/he wants - that is, the group sticks to its decision to play a core PHB game - nothing at all follows, that I can see, about the proper, or even the conceivable, limits upon GM authority. It's not the GM's decision. If the group has decided to play a core PHB game, then [I]the GM does not have to make any decision about whether or not a 1st level PC can fly[/I]. The matter has already been settled by the group agreeing to certain PC build and action resolution rules (namely, core PHB). I assume that your opinion is that the GM has the unilateral power to overturn that group agreement, but your example of a PC being unable to fly doesn't give me any reason to think that you're right in general about the unilateral power a GM does or should have. [/QUOTE]

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